NF - Annexation of Czechoslovakia - Give Germany some tanks!

[LostinSpice]

If Germany takes the Czechs as part of their NF then could they also receive a bunch of P35T and P38Ts please.

Just a one off amount that can be interrogated into Germany's divisions just like lend lease.

Or perhaps Germany could be awarded another tank slot to produce them if the player sees fit. As no technical advantage can be given for game play this would mean they would have to run along side the Panzer II and would basically be just flavour. But flavour is one of the reasons we play these games and it answers the question so many are asking about those 'lost' Czech tanks that Germany had so many in the early years.

 

[Lamahorse]

Captured equipment is a thing I believe in HoI4.

 

[Pavelius6]

They could receive Czechs divisions instead of equipment and event that will take some manpower for balance to getting new divisions

 

[LostinSpice]

Captured equipment is a thing I believe in HoI4.

Not yet it's not. Maybe later after game release.

 

[LostinSpice]

They could receive Czechs divisions instead of equipment and event that will take some manpower for balance to getting new divisions

Was this historically correct? I don't think the Germans inherited any Czech divisions, I know they worked with the Slovaks who were a puppet.

 

[Pavelius6]

Its not correct but could simulate getting tanks and making divisions with them or Germany could have bonus upgrade to some panzer divisions

 

[LostinSpice]

Its not correct but could simulate getting tanks and making divisions with them or Germany could have bonus upgrade to some panzer divisions

Fair enough. though it could raise more issues with players about historical correctness. I think what we both agree on is that something should be done to address this matter.

 

[Pavelius6]

Right but in my opinion it is better to make ahistorical simulation of something with the same effect as historical event than doing just nothing

 

[LostinSpice]

I agree. Ignoring this massive issue about Germany's armoured strength during the early years isn't an option.

 

[LordOfWar16]

Well, we need to keep in mind that ingame an pz35t and an pzII practically have the same stats, which the exception of the bonuses from production companies. Without those company specific bonuses those tanks are the same stat wise and only differentiate in their appearance and naming.

For the capturing part, yes they want to do it, but it wont be in the initial version of the game.

 

[SturmerFIN]

Sure but still germans got lot of tanks.

Annexed country equipment should not just dissapear. Man power sure but not equipment.

 

[LordOfWar16]

Capturing equipment is something they want to do, but it wont be in for the release version.

#1 How does equipment take damage in combat? (Is it just manpower that takes damage and if manpower falls below a percentage the equipment is lost?)
#2 Presumably a battalion with 50% equipment only gets 50% of it's combat stats. (Or is it non-linear?) What about a Division though? If a mixed intantry / tank Division has Infantry Battalions with 100% equipment and Tanks at 0% equipment would they get no stats benefit from the tank Battalion?
#3 Can you capture enemy equipment? Would be nice to see Germans using captured French tanks for example.

#1 wait for combat diary
#2 its linear, and on division levl its as you say. no tanks, no benefit
#3 not right now, but may happen in the future at some point

 

[LostinSpice]

All noted. This thread is about receiving Czech tanks as part of the NF unique to Germany. So it could be done quite easily - Annex Czechs and get 500 tanks for example. (I know the Germans got many more). Basically enough to fill 2 Panzer divisions would be about right.

 

[Jmland]

Other relatively significant "captured" equipment would be the Marder 1 (captured Soviet Gun mounted on captured French chasis- several hundred built until Marder 2 and Marder 3 production came on line. ), The captured French tanks (which I believe Germany gave as lend lease to the Axis minors), lots of captured Soviet equipment, but the Germanys mostly just utilized the gun tubes, There was a lot of Austrian Infantry and support equipment incorporated into the German army after the Ansluss (but they didn't have a lot of armored vehicles), One thing that the Germans took everything they could get was trucks (meaning anything with wheels). That could and should be a significant portion of the "captured equipment"

 

[Shatterfury]

Other relatively significant "captured" equipment would be the Marder 1 (captured Soviet Gun mounted on captured French chasis- several hundred built until Marder 2 and Marder 3 production came on line. ), The captured French tanks (which I believe Germany gave as lend lease to the Axis minors), lots of captured Soviet equipment, but the Germanys mostly just utilized the gun tubes, There was a lot of Austrian Infantry and support equipment incorporated into the German army after the Ansluss (but they didn't have a lot of armored vehicles), One thing that the Germans took everything they could get was trucks (meaning anything with wheels). That could and should be a significant portion of the "captured equipment"

This can be easily be simulated by events that trigger after the conditions are met, the Anschluss, Conquest of Czechoslovakia, Conquest of France etc.

 

[ThatLittleLegen]

So much important content that will be left to be paid for in DLC.

 

[SturmerFIN]

maybe like 50% of all equipment and stuff is gained by annexation.
Higher tech stuff should grant development boost.

 

[Pavelius6]

When i am looking at pdx dlc politicy i think that NF cannot be in dlc because this have too much influence on game

 

[ThatLittleLegen]

When i am looking at pdx dlc politicy i think that NF cannot be in dlc because this have too much influence on game

Yeah I very much agree but it does not look like this will happen, almost like reserving possible content for DLC

 

[Duke Von Hannover]

When i am looking at pdx dlc politicy i think that NF cannot be in dlc because this have too much influence on game

Most likely as with EUIV national idea sets they will be granted free with the DLC patch and then the DLC adds related features. Scandinavia DLC for example that fleshes out the scandie countries and adds events, units, and stuff the National focus trees would be free the rest and related stuff wouldn't.

Thats my assumption, pdx's DLC policy overall is very good, and fair so I don't expect them to screw with us like that.