Next update: When the river runs deep

[Valdus]

What about major game breaking issues like reconnect feature, improved lobby/matchmaking and other non-gameplay related things? Instead resources are being wasted on new unit portraits... Seriously? How is that meant to improve the game? Did anyone actually asked for that? Jeez...

I agree with your post except for this point. The person making 2d unit portraits is an artist, not a programmer. They can continue to work on things like portraits without using up any resources that would be spent on programming related enhancements.

 

[xXSunSlayerXx]

I agree with your post except for this point. The person making 2d unit portraits is an artist, not a programmer. They can continue to work on things like portraits without using up any resources that would be spent on programming related enhancements.

But they use up roughly the same amount of money. So assuming Eugen is currently working on their next project and they are only putting a set amount of resources into SD, we would much rather have a programmer than an art guy working on it. Unless of course, the guy who made the portrait had nothing else to work on anyway, which seems highly unlikely.

 

[Protosszocker]

So, in short:
We'll pretty much won't see the amount of balance needed with the next patch.
That they let "special players" test the new patch might sound like a great idea... but it also shows that they have themselves no clue what they do and how it even impacts the game or they don't know how much they can trust their statistics they base the upcoming changes on.
I don't know what is more frightening.

I think they dont get enough staticstics. To few people, the number of games played is to low. So they need good players for testing and they need their feedback. I think its okay to go to the community for this. And I think it was usefull. Even though I think it split up th e community even more and just pumping out the patch every 2 weeks and maybe changening it back after 2 weeks is more usefull and gives the players more of the feeling of a supported game then making it behind the curtain.

 

[mitchverr]

But they use up roughly the same amount of money. So assuming Eugen is currently working on their next project and they are only putting a set amount of resources into SD, we would much rather have a programmer than an art guy working on it. Unless of course, the guy who made the portrait had nothing else to work on anyway, which seems highly unlikely.

You realise a large number of companies dont hire their artists on a comission basis right? The guy would either be fired or not working lol. YOU would much rather a programmer than an art guy, a company which produces games would rather have a good art guy on staff and im sure, the art guy would rather be in work...

 

[iamthatiam]

You realise a large number of companies dont hire their artists on a comission basis right? The guy would either be fired or not working lol. YOU would much rather a programmer than an art guy, a company which produces games would rather have a good art guy on staff and im sure, the art guy would rather be in work...

I not really sure what your point is?

 

[Harold Alexander]

There's Captains involved, so.

Captins still better than you, because he at least playing this game.

 

[xXSunSlayerXx]

You realise a large number of companies dont hire their artists on a comission basis right? The guy would either be fired or not working lol. YOU would much rather a programmer than an art guy, a company which produces games would rather have a good art guy on staff and im sure, the art guy would rather be in work...

...
I have no idea what you are trying to say. "Either be fired or not working"? Are you saying Eugen just gave up on making games and are sitting in their office, twiddling their thumps until the lights turn off because they didn't pay the bills? Instead of, you know, working on a new game?

 

[Valdus]

You realise a large number of companies dont hire their artists on a comission basis right? The guy would either be fired or not working lol. YOU would much rather a programmer than an art guy, a company which produces games would rather have a good art guy on staff and im sure, the art guy would rather be in work...

I think what he meant was that internally most companies will have a budget for every project. They may have allocated $X towards ongoing Steel Division development and they are using some of that budget on hours for an artist (who would otherwise be used on a different Eugen project and use of their budget of course) instead of allocating all the budget on programming hours. With them being relatively small they might not organize in such a manner though.

 

[I WUB PUGS]

I think they dont get enough staticstics. To few people, the number of games played is to low. So they need good players for testing and they need their feedback. I think its okay to go to the community for this. And I think it was usefull. Even though I think it split up th e community even more and just pumping out the patch every 2 weeks and maybe changening it back after 2 weeks is more usefull and gives the players more of the feeling of a supported game then making it behind the curtain.

I fear if they go off of their typical "muh internal stats" for anything, we're gonna get something truly depressing because the only things that seem to fill up even remotely quickly anymore are the 10v10 on 4v4 map cancer rooms.

 

[iamthatiam]

Still no release date for this patch and they are promoting Protosszocker's 1v1 open tournament on Facebook so I'm assuming it won't be released pre-tournament. So much for early August.

 

[Valdus]

Still no release date for this patch and they are promoting Protosszocker's 1v1 open tournament on Facebook so I'm assuming it won't be released pre-tournament. So much for early August.

The post said next week, which would be this week. They usually patch on a Wednesday.

 

[Protosszocker]

Yeah will be thursday or wednesday as usual I would say.

 

[Dundradal]

I feel like they announce, and then later give a release date, a week from the day of giving the release date they release the patch. I'd imagine maybe hearing something this week and the patch next week.

 

[sexualspaghetti]

Wasn't this patch supposed to be out late July -early August? Jesus. Idk what's deader the player base or the dev support. Stuff breaks my heart I had high hopes for this game. Not only is wargame dead now because of this release but so is this...

 

[Crotou]

Don't forget it is summer break time here in France. And... we are still early August!

 

[Protosszocker]

Wasn't this patch supposed to be out late July -early August? Jesus. Idk what's deader the player base or the dev support. Stuff breaks my heart I had high hopes for this game. Not only is wargame dead now because of this release but so is this...

will come out this week man so pls stop dead game mememing
If you dont like the game anymore go away. if you like it play it thanks.

 

[iamthatiam]

will come out this week man so pls stop dead game mememing
If you dont like the game anymore go away. if you like it play it thanks.

How do you expect this patch to affect your upcoming tournament? It seems odd to have a tournament right after a new patch is released.

 

[Protosszocker]

How do you expect this patch to affect your upcoming tournament? It seems odd to have a tournament right after a new patch is released.

Its not a division patch so it will be fine. Meta will just change slightly (have played the beta for this patch). So yeah will be interesting to see but actually all but 2 of my tournaments so far were directly after a patch.

 

[DPK]

I really want to see some tanks like Comet, Pershing, I'm tired of my allied tanks getting torched from max range............. wehraboos plz don't tell me to "play smart, combine arms" how smart are you when you just right click?

This game is advertised to be "realistic",but it doesn't pick the quantity advantage alllied may have but only pick the weapon characteristics exists in paper.

This game is flooded with axis players, but no flood control for several month, "game is dying" is prohibited here, but look at the steamspy, 70 personal online? and you all told me it's okay, those who told us so should leave and try to become a politician.

 

[IS-2]

I really want to see some tanks like Comet, Pershing, I'm tired of my allied tanks getting torched from max range............. wehraboos plz don't tell me to "play smart, combine arms" how smart are you when you just right click?

This game is advertised to be "realistic",but it doesn't pick the quantity advantage alllied may have but only pick the weapon characteristics exists in paper.

This game is flooded with axis players, but no flood control for several month, "game is dying" is prohibited here, but look at the steamspy, 70 personal online? and you all told me it's okay, those who told us so should leave and try to become a politician.