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So I have been looking around the forums and many people have been saying the next update will be in the Pacific. What will that entail?

Will Okinawa and Iwo Jima not be giant, haha. And will Thailand and French Indochina get some love. A whole re balance of the Sino-Japanese war would be nice. And the Pacific thearter of ww2 really needs some help in the ai department.
 
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I think next update with prep work for a Soviet-Eastern Europe update. Like the immediate next patch (I think it’s called Collie) will probably include some logistics changes with no countries in it (or smaller countries) and then Barbarossa patch will be with a Soviet update (unless PDX feel like trolling)
 
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They stated they are working on two concurrently. We don't know which will drop first, I don't believe. So saying it's Pacific first can't be confirm, as saying it's Soviet/Eastern Europe first can't be confirmed.
 

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All we know (from the DevDiary) is that they are working on 2. They are code named Collie (1.10) and Barbarossa (1.11). While the code name is supposed to be generic, most have given clues as to what the content is going to be.
I don't think anyone would guess that something code named Barbarossa would be anything but a USSR/eastern Europe rework, Operation Collie was a British naval bombing (edit: and shore bombardment) campaign against the NIcobar Islands (Indian Ocean) in preparation of a possible invasion of those islands and possibly Sumatra (edit: which was precluded by the Japanese surrender). I doubt the DLC/patch would focus solely on that, so it could be anything.
 

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Well, the one code named "Barbarossa" is 1.11 and the one named "Collie" is 1.10, so the USSR will probably not be first. But since they are working on both at the same time, they shouldn't be too far apart.
 

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I think next update with prep work for a Soviet-Eastern Europe update. Like the immediate next patch (I think it’s called Collie) will probably include some logistics changes with no countries in it (or smaller countries) and then Barbarossa patch will be with a Soviet update (unless PDX feel like trolling)
A part of me hopes paradox trolls us just to see the community revolt :p
 
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Italy needs a rework too, everyone forgets about that country, but he has few options to play it.
A rework to the air section would also be very useful, like the one they did to the naval. Finally a rework for the supplies would also be great. Apart from continuing to add smaller but interesting countries.
The game is incredible with the updates that are getting, as soon as they get DLC I throw the money in their faces.
 

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WtT focused on the Second Sino-Japanese war. The Pacific war still needs an overhaul.
We've already had a naval rework impacting that part of the war, and the major participants in that theatre have already gotten focus tree reworks. While countries such as Siam and the Phillipines could use focus trees too (as well as touching up the Australian one), the eastern front in Europe is in a much more pressing need of work.
 
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We've already had a naval rework impacting that part of the war, and the major participants in that theatre have already gotten focus tree reworks. While countries such as Siam and the Phillipines could use focus trees too (as well as touching up the Australian one), the eastern front in Europe is in a much more pressing need of work.
Not from strategic perspective. While there's certain point in taking out Soviets, fighting over Pacific for tiny islands with no population or industry seems kind of pointless. Hell, even the colonies there mostly provide resources that can be replaced by refineries, so letting Japan run wild won't hinder Allies much.
didn't a dev hint at 'collie' having something to do with a dog bread?
Inb4 DLC-exclusive "attack dog" divisions >.>
 
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Officially, the codes names assigned to the patches aren't supposed to reveal their focus. However, all of the previous ones have had at least a partial relation to the historical operation they take their names from. However, I think they might break that pattern with "Collie" unless they don't revamp a major in it, because the only major that haven't gotten a revamp are Italy, the USSR, and Poland (of the 7+1 that started with unique NF trees). I can't see any way to tie any of those countries into Operation Collie (Italy and Poland were out of the fight by the time of Operation Collie, and the USSR had no presence in the Indian Ocean either). So either it is a small patch with no new NF trees, or it isn't related to the historical operation.
 
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We've already had a naval rework impacting that part of the war, and the major participants in that theatre have already gotten focus tree reworks. While countries such as Siam and the Phillipines could use focus trees too (as well as touching up the Australian one), the eastern front in Europe is in a much more pressing need of work.
The MtG rework left out many important aspects. Carriers, naval invasions, use of CA, naval AA and many other things are either broken or at least need improvement.
If Collie improves small island warfare, that would be great.
 
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That achievement contest almost - almost - compels them to do a Finnish focus.

They announced the code names and started working on the projects before the competition was announced so unless they rigged the competition I don't think the competition will have that much impact on the projects. That being said, Finland is probably going to get a focus in either Collie or Barbarossa unless PDX is trolling by not working on the Soviet Union for a patch named Barbarossa
 

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1.10 Collie will be accompanied with a dlc called " Mancò la fortuna, non il valore!" and will include New focus trees for Italy, Greece and Turkey. It will expand on strategic bombing, easier air war management, include a plane designer, politic sub-ideologies and peace conferences. It will be released in december 2020.

1.11 Barbarossa will be accompanied with a dcl called "STAVKA" and will include New focus trees for USSR, Poland, Finland and Sweden. It will revamp supply with important railroads on the map, revamp land combat doing away with fixed width meta, move support companies to armies, give us tools to establish "defense in depth" lines, make mobilization more important, include a tank designer. It will be released in december 2021.
 
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