Next step for EU: cinematic events?
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Only major events, like the dismantling of the Holy Roman Empire or the enacting of Renovatio Imperii. Important, world shaking ones should be given a fair amount of attention.
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This is... This is what you think is important? The game is broken, and you want... Cinematic events?
Ok. Why not? It's not like they're going to try to fix anything anyways.
Ok. Why not? It's not like they're going to try to fix anything anyways.
What parts of the game do you believe to be broken? I've played some real messes and though not flawless, this game is certainly playable and enjoyable.
I don't support this exactly as in real world Paradox has resources limited enough to focus on more important things 
Like Artificial Intelligence (although I think AI in EU in okay, well when compared with all other strategy games I have ever played), Peaceful Gameplay, Balance etc.
Although I would support Cinematics in one particular instance: ENDING. Currently ending is kinda anticlimatic, day just changes to final date and boom you receive this 'go to menu' screen. Okay, this screen is quite cool and generally ending of EU doesn't feel really bad, but I think it could be more awesome.
Imagine few short - like 1-minute long - but awesome cinematics in some variables:
- American Indigenous Nation Which Kicked Asses
- Subsaharan Empire Which Kicked Asses
- European
- Horde
- Islam
- India
- Orient
And few special ones:
- World Conquest
- Economic Superpower
- Colonial Superpower
- Cultural Legacy (well, first some kind of Peaceful Gameplay and Peaceful Achievements should appear and this is arguably first priority )
- Holy Roman Empire United
- China Forever
Well, at least few variables would be nice. 5 - 15 minutes of cinematics isn't incredibly much for an entire game - personally I would have nothing against them being 'climatic' slideshow, whatever, just to feel epicness and accomplishment.
Sometimes I am wondering if it is something wrong with me that I can enjoy many 'broken' things or if it is something wrong with spoiled, always unsatisfied forever complaining First World people which I, guy from poor family of post - socialist country, cannot understand.
And then I remind myself that such stuff is completely relative depeding on who speaks it.
Anyway, I don't experience any bugs nor technical difficulties + I love this game which is, coincidentally, among Steam top 25 played games, so well: either participate in appropriate discussions and help 'repair' the game or just stay quiet until some patch will satisfy you. Don't try to project your negative view on people who feel perfectly fine.
EDIT
That about First World was about the particular mentality, not about geographical locations and countries, obviously.
Like Artificial Intelligence (although I think AI in EU in okay, well when compared with all other strategy games I have ever played), Peaceful Gameplay, Balance etc.
Although I would support Cinematics in one particular instance: ENDING. Currently ending is kinda anticlimatic, day just changes to final date and boom you receive this 'go to menu' screen. Okay, this screen is quite cool and generally ending of EU doesn't feel really bad, but I think it could be more awesome.
Imagine few short - like 1-minute long - but awesome cinematics in some variables:
- American Indigenous Nation Which Kicked Asses
- Subsaharan Empire Which Kicked Asses
- European
- Horde
- Islam
- India
- Orient
And few special ones:
- World Conquest
- Economic Superpower
- Colonial Superpower
- Cultural Legacy (well, first some kind of Peaceful Gameplay and Peaceful Achievements should appear
and this is arguably first priority )- Holy Roman Empire United
- China Forever
Well, at least few variables would be nice. 5 - 15 minutes of cinematics isn't incredibly much for an entire game - personally I would have nothing against them being 'climatic' slideshow, whatever, just to feel epicness and accomplishment.
Sometimes I am wondering if it is something wrong with me that I can enjoy many 'broken' things or if it is something wrong with spoiled, always unsatisfied forever complaining First World people
which I, guy from poor family of post - socialist country, cannot understand.And then I remind myself that such stuff is completely relative depeding on who speaks it.
Anyway, I don't experience any bugs nor technical difficulties + I love this game which is, coincidentally, among Steam top 25 played games, so well: either participate in appropriate discussions and help 'repair' the game or just stay quiet until some patch will satisfy you. Don't try to project your negative view on people who feel perfectly fine.
EDIT
That about First World was about the particular mentality, not about geographical locations and countries, obviously.
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There is one (AFAIR) game-breaking bug ATM. The AI's armies are freezing for few decades.
But nevertheless, this adds nothing to discussion about cinematic events, I don't think that it's realy counterproductive.
Damn, I have never seen that. And this terrifying united AI HRE really deserved on a bug like that, given how overpowered it was due to instant-forming-zeroautonomy-300k forces >_>
Anyway, what do you think about Ending Cinematics in few variables?
Different for each continent and place? That'd be great
And finally ppl would look at score, even if only to see some cinematics 
Only if the game of EUV is a solid enough game, and only, as said earlier, if it involves things that are important: First Succesful revolution, the revolution in europe, destruction/unification of the HRE, um, the reformation, ect
As others have said, I think this would be a good addition, but only for the few really major events in the game - the Reformation kicking off (and maybe even the Counter-Reformation beginning), the Revolutionary Target showing up, the HRE being dismantled, that kind of stuff. I agree with @Krajzen too that there should be short cinematics at the end of the game, just for fun.
My first reaction to the thread title was 'please no', but this makes sense. A lot of these epochal events are kind of anti-climactic. Maybe not full cinematics, but even a kickass picture or short gif loop would be nice - thinking about the way Rome: Total War made the destruction of a faction feel significant.
Though I would still say no for regular events. For example, the various assassination cinematics in Shogun 2 were cool and amusing for, like, the first twenty times. After that it's just annoying. Imagine having to see the same canned cinematic every time you get a CB or get a 'Trading in X' modifier.
Given 3D cinematics need a big investment of peoples for creating them I don't support that but the general idea is good
What would be nice though is real world photography or video or animated sketch art with some overview for the event and nice background music
So I think more in the direction of CIVILIZATION wonder and tech cutscenes than real animated 3D which takes too much development cost away from more important things
What would be nice though is real world photography or video or animated sketch art with some overview for the event and nice background music
So I think more in the direction of CIVILIZATION wonder and tech cutscenes than real animated 3D which takes too much development cost away from more important things
It would be great for some major events, IMO. Maybe add some immersion that the game is frequently lacking.
Arguments like this are IMO irrelevant:
It's not like the people fixing bugs or coding up new features are the ones who'd spend time on something like this. The programming effort should be negligible, it's just about artist time. And I'd much rather have artists doing this than unit sprites or whatever (though it's again not that simple, different skills).
Arguments like this are IMO irrelevant:
It's not like the people fixing bugs or coding up new features are the ones who'd spend time on something like this. The programming effort should be negligible, it's just about artist time. And I'd much rather have artists doing this than unit sprites or whatever (though it's again not that simple, different skills).