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Archaeologists baffled by Phoenician find
Source: AAP

BRISBANE - Local residents and senior archaeologists were today baffled by the supposed discovery of a 3,000-year-old mine and harbour in north Queensland, which may have been built by Phoenicians.
The mine, located near Mackay, was discovered by a local resident who believed his find would change the world's history.

Val Osborn said the ancient site at Freshwater Point, south of Mackay, indicates a Phoenician colony was established there about 1000 BC.

'It's typical Phoenician. We have a bell temple and that's typical Phoenician,' Mr Osborn said in a telephone interview.

'They're the only people in history who refined metals on the beaches in dolomite brick blast furnaces.'

Mr Osborn said evidence of the colony was throughout the area.

'They mined the whole complex. They've put roads and loading platforms and harbours,' he said.

It included huge sea walls designed to put three 60 metre ships end to end so they could be loaded with the area's rich mineral deposits, Mr Osborn said.

But University of Queensland archaeologist, Jay Hall, said experts in the field were yet to receive any confirmation of the find and he questioned the veracity of the claim.

Dr Hall said it appeared that the claim was yet to be put to the test by archaeologists and scientists.

'This is a claim for another culture, some two or three thousand years ago, to have landed and made a significant impact on the coast of Australia,' he said.

'I would have thought there would have been lots of experts on Phoenicians on geology giving affidavits in support of the claim.'

But Dr Hall stopped short of denouncing the theory despite Mr Osborn keeping his discovery a secret for the past four years.

'It would be rather astonishing if something was proven by the archaeological community to be from the Mediterranean,' Dr Hall said.

He said the Phoenicians were largely restricted to the Mediterranean and came from an area which is now known as Lebanon.

Mr Osborn admitted the site had to be dated but he hoped to bring in international experts.

'There are no Phoenician experts in Australia anyway,' he said.

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Originally posted by Dragon on 07-24-2000 05:02 AM
Now that is really weird, please keep us up to date on this.

Weird world it is...
Did anybody heard of the Roman statuette found in an Aztec grave some months ago. As the grave date from before the arrival of any Europeans in those lands, imagine the surprise...
 

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Yeah, I read about the statuette, saw a picture of it even.

I've been expecting it though, since there are many other indications that Europeans have been in America before.

For example, there are several statues and statuettes of bearded people in central America and Peru. The natives couldn't grow beards, so it's pretty significant.
 

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Some historians believe that Polish sea captain Jan z Kolna led a flotilla of Danish ships to the coast of Labrador and down to the Delaware River in 1476. That was 16 yeas before Columbus landed on the Caribbean island of Hispaniola. Since Jan z Kolna died during the Atlantic crossing back to Europe, his discovery did not receive much prominence and died a natural death.

I won't comment on this :) Just thought some of you should have a read, if were going into the world of the bizarre.

Sapura
 

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Originally posted by Sapura on 07-24-2000 09:52 AM

Some historians believe that Polish sea captain Jan z Kolna led a flotilla of Danish ships to the coast of Labrador and down to the Delaware River in 1476. That was 16 yeas before Columbus landed on the Caribbean island of Hispaniola. Since Jan z Kolna died during the Atlantic crossing back to Europe, his discovery did not receive much prominence and died a natural death.

I won't comment on this :) Just thought some of you should have a read, if were going into the world of the bizarre.

Sapura

It's a fact that Norsemen from Greenland founded a colony in Canada a couple of hundred years before that. That's been known for quite a while and recently there was an article about it, in Time I think it was.

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Originally posted by Sapura on 07-24-2000 09:52 AM

Some historians believe that Polish sea captain Jan z Kolna led a flotilla of Danish ships to the coast of Labrador and down to the Delaware River in 1476.

Yup and fishing vessels from Bristol were supposed to have touched down at various places in the New World whilst working the cod fishery off the Grand Banks well before 1492 - 'twas a trade secret however, so they weren't interested in publicising the fact.

Then there were the voyages of the Irish saints (Brendan et al) back in the C6th.

There were probably a fair few unrecorded contacts between OW and NW. Columbus was the one that 'took' however.

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>Are you a mormon then? :)

Nope, protestant.

>Ah who cares ..

I know one that I hope cares... :)

Hmmm... maybe we should stop here... this thread has become more off-topic than it was from the beginning...

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There were probably a fair few unrecorded contacts between OW and NW. Columbus was the one that 'took' however.

Yes, its not surprising at all, actually.


AdMartin,

I don't even know what we were discussing anyway :)

Sapura