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[lucaluca]

Playing with Victoria for the first time with Belgium (well it's the 3rd time after loosing with Tuscany and Ottoman Empire), all I have to say is:

- Vic is much better then CK

- vic economic is not much realistic (especially because it lacks of internal markets, and RGOs have too little importance)

- vic diplomacy is great but something simple is missing, for example
give money in peace treaties
diplo satellize
ways to fabric a claim (or random events giving claims)

- interface is clear and functional, why all those bad reviews?

- micromenagement is not hell, you can micromenage all everyday or leave it alone for long time during wars and economy still runs greatly

- Prussia and Sardinia Piedemont have great difficulties in uniting their nations to Germany and Italy

- powers prevent each other to claim colonies due to wrong claim buildings (they should build way more forts)

- fleets don't seem so important

 

[King]

The Victoria Economic model may not be the most realistic, but it is one of the best I have seen. Certainly for a paradox game.

If you ask for War Indemnities then you get money from the bad guys in peace. In the form of monthly payments for the next few years.

 

[lucaluca]

I forgot: I'm playing 1.03c vanilla, which Darkrenown's mods do I need?

 

[unmerged(38918)]

The Victoria Economic model may not be the most realistic, but it is one of the best I have seen. Certainly for a paradox game.

If you ask for War Indemnities then you get money from the bad guys in peace. In the form of monthly payments for the next few years.

Yeah but if your losing a war you can't buy your way out like you could in EU2

 

[Xanthippus]

I forgot: I'm playing 1.03c vanilla, which Darkrenown's mods do I need?

You should play VIP 0.4, it fixes a lot of problems with the vanilla game, such as the messy Italian and German unifications.

 

[november]

Depending on who you are playing, fleets can be critical.

VIP has some good points but introduces a lot of problems of its own. It makes playing the big countries easier and playing the smaller ones harder. Not my cup of tea.

 

[Sir Humphrey]

The economic modle may not be perfect (either VIP or .3 Vanilla) but its certainyl very good.

 

[unmerged(38918)]

The economic modle may not be perfect (either VIP or .3 Vanilla) but its certainyl very good.

I'd like the oppertunity to empose trade embargos.

 

[lucaluca]

You should play VIP 0.4, it fixes a lot of problems with the vanilla game, such as the messy Italian and German unifications.

before going for VIP, which is said to be much harder then vanilla, I would like to master the game with 1.03c, but also would like to see italy and germany most of the time reunificated and the bugs (not addressed by 1.03c) solved.

with a very small fleet (13 ships) I was able to fight a colonial war agaist russia and many wars against mexico... of course neither russia nor mexico should have produced huge fleets

 

[unmerged(45852)]

The economic model is horrendous if it is meant to mirror how the world really works, but outstanding at reproducing the motivations and conflicts of the time period.

I really love this game. I suppose many consider it micromanagement hell because the first campaign it is, but once you figure out the system it is not (I'm on my third campaign and don't consider it bad at all). The game is quite complex, I assume most quit before they grow to appreciate it.

 

[OriginalRafiki]

The economic model is horrendous if it is meant to mirror how the world really works, but outstanding at reproducing the motivations and conflicts of the time period.

Pssst, it's a game, not a historical simulation....

 

[unmerged(45852)]

Pssst, it's a game, not a historical simulation....

I thought it was a historical simulation game.

But my point was meant as a compliment, not a criticism.

 

[OriginalRafiki]

Indeed, but the emphasis is on "game", not on "simulation"

 

[Marxistbard]

Fleets are great. Speed rush to Battleships and level Great Britian. You can have completley worthless troops but offshore bombardment gives a HUGE advantage. I used to concentrate on army advancements but as long as you have any sort of shoreline you can cause all sorts of problems. Just skip over Ironclads.