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Bizon, How you getting on? Quick question, I am downloading NWO2 version 224, can i copy this over the last mod and safely play with saved games from the last patch on the new one?
 

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Gorbachev stepped in.

And you'll be able to see the old (at this time) order to crumble, or not. If I don't make any post-70s scenario, 1989 events have little chance to get any attention.

Bizon, How you getting on? Quick question, I am downloading NWO2 version 224, can i copy this over the last mod and safely play with saved games from the last patch on the new one?

Yes, you shouldn't have any problems :)
 

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Love how rebellions happen all over Africa if Western powers lose their home land, just thinking is there a way to create "Communist" counter parts for African nations trying to fight for independence?

I mean it's cool to see new Socialist nations fighting off Imperialism etc, but it's annoying to see them change there Government to "Democracies" etc. Is there any way to stop this ? or ways to create a Socialist counter part, like you have in Europe example "People's republic of France" etc.
 

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Love how rebellions happen all over Africa if Western powers lose their home land, just thinking is there a way to create "Communist" counter parts for African nations trying to fight for independence?

I mean it's cool to see new Socialist nations fighting off Imperialism etc, but it's annoying to see them change there Government to "Democracies" etc. Is there any way to stop this ? or ways to create a Socialist counter part, like you have in Europe example "People's republic of France" etc.
People's Republic of France (and other people's republic can also appear) can happen if you start before 1945 and the USSR captures parts of mentioned country. I remember one time I had 1 Germany, 2 Frances, Commie Netherlands/Belgium and 2 Italys. Crazy game that was....
 

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Love how rebellions happen all over Africa if Western powers lose their home land, just thinking is there a way to create "Communist" counter parts for African nations trying to fight for independence?

Alas, too many tags would be needed, going far over DH maximum. And because every country would need a name, flag, basic government, counter that would also mean a lot of mundane clicking here and there. :)

I mean it's cool to see new Socialist nations fighting off Imperialism etc, but it's annoying to see them change there Government to "Democracies" etc. Is there any way to stop this ? or ways to create a Socialist counter part, like you have in Europe example "People's republic of France" etc.
What do you mean by changing government to democracies? If you think about Africa, then yes, rather few governments are leftist in this time frame. There will be a few more when more African countries get 1970-80s covered.
 

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Ahh i remember reading about tags etc. So i see your point buddy.

Well Angola has recently fought off Belgium and has become a Communist nation, when i ally with them when i launched my liberation of Africa they ended up becoming Market Liberal in the space of a couple of in game days. Is there anyway to stop that or do i have to make them a puppet nation?

On the point of tags etc, How do i create nations ? I mean for me personally i never really have the need for the Confederate states and others, would it be easy to change them in to "Communist counter part nations" etc?

(edit) As well as that is there any tutorials about that show you how to make events?
 
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I'd have to check the angola.txt event file. If I remember well, Angola has a set of Portuguese administrators as HoS/HoG first (in lack of better leaders), then they should get Jonas Savimbi as the leader (I remember getting his photo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Savimbi#mediaviewer/File:Jonas_Savimbi.jpg). Normally, those colonial personalities shouldn't come with regime change (and ideally happen only for puppet Angola) but ANG is one of the first tags alphabetically and maybe I didn't have such rules back then.

About tags... I am able to recycle a couple of tags and I do it already (Trieste, Pakistan, Communist Afghanistan, Biafra, possibly Zimbabwe, Zambia). But there's DH Full compatibility which I want to maintain which requires me to retain:
1. WW1 (tags like Imperial Germany, Austria-Hungary, Jebel Shammar and Russian breakaway states)
2. WW2 (Reichskommisariats burn tags like crazy)
3. Alternative WW2 endings (American revolters for the fall of USA, British revolters for the breakup of the UK, etc.)
... and there's simply nothing left and even if I squeeze out another 1 or 2 tags, we come nowhere close to the target.

And as I wrote, there would be a lot of coding for those alternative countries to appear in a satisfying way.

About events... there's no black magic :) I didn't ever feel the need for coding a dedicated application for event editing so I use Notepad++. I have a spreadsheet for ID ranges and another for keeping track of elections and I know a good deal of "Modding documentation\event_commands.txt" by heart ;) Most of my events are simple, if you want to look at anything more complicated to get better idea, war endings are more intricate (files: der_untergang, the_jewel_voice, etc.), chinese_civil_war, israel and dissolution_of_eastern_bloc + cold_war_alliances can also be your pick (maybe you find another errors?). And this is old and basic but still may be helpful: http://www.paradoxian.org/hoi2wiki/index.php/Modding_events
 

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Yeah i can see your point Bizon :) It's a fantastic mod, i must admit i hardly play the world war two scenarios now, just go straight to the Cold war so i am probably going to have a look at changing some of the Reichskommisariats tags when i am in the "know how" I have been reading up on a few of the "guides" but i am such a noob when it comes to this.

Cheers for the info though will give it a wee study. What is the latest version of notepad++?

In regards to you saying you were wanting to do some events for the 70's 80's etc, have you spoken to hansnery about maybe using some of the events for "turning point" in regards to a collapse of the USSR etc for NWO?

(edit) "Alternative WW2 endings (American revolters for the fall of USA" Can this event fire in the cold War?
 
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Urgently need help, Does any one know of any quick methods of supplying my troops?

i create supply lines etc but the AI just cancels them or destroys them regardless of how many naval units i have.
 

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Playing with version 2.2.4, the latest one it seems, I am having massive problems with the mission modifiers still all being out of synch. Mountain divisions don't get a mountain bonus, for instance, and when the Allies attempted to invade the Netherlands in late 1940, they actually got a bonus for doing an Amphibious Landing. Is this still CWTT-related, and is it known/being worked on?
 

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Yeah i managed to get them supplied (phew) i got as far as Detroit and Miami and the US had there revolution, which resulted in me losing all the land i had "liberated" ;) which is a wee bit of an anti climax, especially how the Soviets don't get a victory event which would be a nice touch. When i say a "victory event" something less than the total defeat of the US etc, but there should be some benefit, like transfer of some IC to the Soviets etc or some Soviet occupied territory etc.

Was a hard fought game, finally defeated NATO's main power now im still at war with Nepal, Yemen etc. Would be nice to see an event fire for a Communist victory if the US are defeated and the UK, France etc don't exist.

Is there any event or possible future event in regards to the US revolution? maybe like an internal war that the Soviets can eventually enter on the side of the Socialist Americans?

(edit) One bug report, when the USA goes for peace talks, If you choose to occupy the US and create secession states or create the USSSA the game crashes to desktop.
 
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Yeah i managed to get them supplied (phew) i got as far as Detroit and Miami and the US had there revolution, which resulted in me losing all the land i had "liberated" ;) which is a wee bit of an anti climax, especially how the Soviets don't get a victory event which would be a nice touch. When i say a "victory event" something less than the total defeat of the US etc, but there should be some benefit, like transfer of some IC to the Soviets etc or some Soviet occupied territory etc.

Was a hard fought game, finally defeated NATO's main power now im still at war with Nepal, Yemen etc. Would be nice to see an event fire for a Communist victory if the US are defeated and the UK, France etc don't exist.

Is there any event or possible future event in regards to the US revolution? maybe like an internal war that the Soviets can eventually enter on the side of the Socialist Americans?

(edit) One bug report, when the USA goes for peace talks, If you choose to occupy the US and create secession states or create the USSSA the game crashes to desktop.

Sounds like the game events kicked in, the ones which I thought I blocked, because there shouldn't be any revolution in the US not caused by the surrender. The peace talks events is exactly this, hopefully, 'satisfying' event for a communist victory. I remember testing the outcome with USSSA creation in this situation and it worked but it was ages ago. I'll try again to see if it crashes for me.

Any luck with the new update?

I was pretty short on time lately so I made really little progress. The scope of the next release is only a couple of Eastern European countries but I'd like to get each right so there's still some time left.

Good thing is that I'm finishing with my priority one which turned out to be a huge time drain, i.e. rewriting some poorly thought out portions of Chronicle and then adding newest games support (CK2, EU4). I never delved into Crusader Kings inner workings too much and it took me some time to get used to walk the complicated "province id -> main barony -> barony holder -> his ultimate liege -> title" path to get any basic info.

Because, as you see below, the hardest part is done, I will be able to switch NWO2 rather soon :)

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Mali is in as MAL and the only possible twist, the union with Senegal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_Federation doesn't require any new tag.

For the rest, I'll have to squeeze them in somehow. I'm tempted to forget about Eq. Guinea but the other three must find their way in.

EDIT: OK, looking at the map, Equatorial Guinea is not that insignificant, it would span whole two provinces :) I forgot about that patch of mainland that is their too.