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[unmerged(17563)]

Erm no I didn't.. if substantial evidence to the contrary comes up then I'll have any provs I take edited back and I'll quit the game. Drake doesn't know of any NAP and I certainly didn't agree to one, in fact I told you there could be no nap or alliance while you held magyar provinces.

No, no and no.

1500s Drake and I divided Hungary and agreed to maintain the border.

You did say once you wouldn't ally me if I held transylvania, you never once offered to buy them or opened negotiations for a compromise.

Simply fact is you dowed a friend and called your allies engaged in a gangbang then got spain to enter the war only after I had WE

 

[unmerged(19673)]

LE you quit a game, which you were GMing, over BANAT!!

And an agreement made with one player in the 1500's does not constitute an agreement with another player in the 1670's!!

 

[unmerged(17563)]

LE you quit a game, which you were GMing, over BANAT!!

And an agreement made with one player in the 1500's does not constitute an agreement with another player in the 1670's!!

Its not over the province its the lieing, the backstabbing, the ganging and the lack of respect I get shown.

 

[unmerged(19673)]

No, no and no.

1500s Drake and I divided Hungary and agreed to maintain the border.

You did say once you wouldn't ally me if I held transylvania, you never once offered to buy them or opened negotiations for a compromise.

Simply fact is you dowed a friend and called your allies engaged in a gangbang then got spain to enter the war only after I had WE

LE as far as i remember, last session russia was at war with France, Austria, England, and the Netherlands. Then you joined AGAINST RUSSIA after about 2 or 3 years. Isnt this the same thign which just happend to you!

 

[unmerged(19673)]

Its not over the province its the lieing, the backstabbing, the ganging and the lack of respect I get shown.

YOUR A MUSLIM NATION SURROUNDED BY CHRISTIANS!!

How much respect do you expect ?

 

[unmerged(17563)]

LE as far as i remember, last session russia was at war with France, Austria, England, and the Netherlands. Then you joined AGAINST RUSSIA after about 2 or 3 years. Isnt this the same thign which just happend to you!

yes I dowed and yes it was a bad thing to do, but I took no provs and peaced out and apologised.

 

[Specterx]

You did say once you wouldn't ally me if I held transylvania, you never once offered to buy them or opened negotiations for a compromise.

Simply fact is you dowed a friend and called your allies engaged in a gangbang then got spain to enter the war only after I had WE

Fine. I'll quote directly from the ICQ log:

You have sent a message!
a permanent nap is also possible if you want it, but not while you hold any magyar provs (banat, and it looks like you'll annex transylvania soon)

You have received a message!
though I'm interested in a 50year nap

You have sent a message!
impossible while you control magyar provinces

Check for yourself if you still think I'm just lying to you.

Second, as to the war. Well this is a game of conquest and the like, you're playing one of the 3-4 most war-prone nations in the game, and notwithstanding the fact that you offered a NAP you refused to consider giving up the only provinces I really wanted. So I chose to war for them.

As to calling allies, ask Temujin, Drake, or Bonaparte - I wasn't going to call them unless Russia attacked me, and literally a few days before I was to DoW you allied with Russia. What was I supposed to do, fight the Ottomans, Russia, BB, and UoK by myself?

Incidentally, the OE was finally beaten down enough to accept peace for banat.

 

[unmerged(17563)]

YOUR A MUSLIM NATION SURROUNDED BY CHRISTIANS!!

How much respect do you expect ?

Respect as a player and as a GM which I feel I dont have.

 

[unmerged(17563)]

How do you think it feels to play a peaceful game for 150 years then all of a sudden you get what I considered a friendly nation warring you along with their allies? Damm crap thats how, you always could have asked me again, i didnt even want trans that much I would've given it to you if you'd let me keep Banat.

I am not a good warlord and you know that, you saw a soft target and went for it even thought relations were friendly and at worst neutral. I only allied belli for my own protection against the uber alliance.

I'm sorry if I acted stupid but it came as such a shock to have half the world at war with me after the OE had been at peace for so long.

 

[unmerged(19673)]

How do you think it feels to play a peaceful game for 150 years then all of a sudden you get what I considered a friendly nation warring you along with their allies? Damm crap thats how, you always could have asked me again, i didnt even want trans that much I would've given it to you if you'd let me keep Banat.

I am not a good warlord and you know that, you saw a soft target and went for it even thought relations were friendly and at worst neutral. I only allied belli for my own protection against the uber alliance.

I'm sorry if I acted stupid but it came as such a shock to have half the world at war with me after the OE had been at peace for so long.

You were the ottomans fighting austria. No one would say that wascompeltely expected.

BTW, i know people may be unhappy with what i am about to say...but i did inform both ottomans and russia that France, England, and Austria were building up an unusually large amount of troops and that war should be expected. 2 months later austria declared war on OE. So LE, dont say you didnt have a heads up!

 

[admiral drake]

How do you think it feels to play a peaceful game for 150 years then all of a sudden you get what I considered a friendly nation warring you along with their allies? Damm crap thats how, you always could have asked me again, i didnt even want trans that much I would've given it to you if you'd let me keep Banat.

I am not a good warlord and you know that, you saw a soft target and went for it even thought relations were friendly and at worst neutral. I only allied belli for my own protection against the uber alliance.

I'm sorry if I acted stupid but it came as such a shock to have half the world at war with me after the OE had been at peace for so long.

hmmm , you dowed austria before when i sti played it taking advantage of me fighting beli , tho you did peace fast after youre army got beat it stil remains a dow , besides at times you even sayd you would be against me aslong as i had hungary

 

[admiral drake]

You were the ottomans fighting austria. No one would say that wascompeltely expected.

BTW, i know people may be unhappy with what i am about to say...but i did inform both ottomans and russia that France, England, and Austria were building up an unusually large amount of troops and that war should be expected. 2 months later austria declared war on OE. So LE, dont say you didnt have a heads up!

well good thing i invaded you then

 

[unmerged(19673)]

well good thing i invaded you then

Good thing france peaced me
Although im still at -3 stab because of you!

 

[admiral drake]

Right I've had it, that was so pathetic.

Spec you know you broke an unofficial non agression, dont give me any BS.

KJ you are a hyprcrite and a coward.

You will all WP me or I quit.

never signed a nap and any treaty you did made about hungary was broken moment you dowed me for short attempt to invade and take hungary , while i was fighting beli , was a while ago but it stil cancels any claim you got of having unoficial nap with austria

 

[admiral drake]

Good thing france peaced me
Although im still at -3 stab because of you!

hehehe , be happy i didn't take half of north german coast , if it would have continiud i might have vassalt you

 

[admiral drake]

How do you think it feels to play a peaceful game for 150 years then all of a sudden you get what I considered a friendly nation warring you along with their allies? Damm crap thats how, you always could have asked me again, i didnt even want trans that much I would've given it to you if you'd let me keep Banat.

I am not a good warlord and you know that, you saw a soft target and went for it even thought relations were friendly and at worst neutral. I only allied belli for my own protection against the uber alliance.

I'm sorry if I acted stupid but it came as such a shock to have half the world at war with me after the OE had been at peace for so long.

hmmm you think austria considers you a friendy nation while you ally its worse enemy basicle (russia worst threat to austria thats a fact)

 

[admiral drake]

btw for the regular dutch

ottos agreed to lift embargo on dutch in exchange for 500gold ,and wp

income up to 400+
naval tech 21
land 28
inflation 2 and a bit
currently above naval limit so better start building some shipyards to improve support
you can dow and annex nippon moment game starts (1prov left)

, you now got trade agreement with spain and portugal and uok , and russia alowed trade again to but had to give those provs in siberia to russia for it , but persian trade should make up for that on its own

and 1 last thing , seriously suggest you go back to 5inno so you can convert all those provs , stabcost is kinda insane for smal country like dutch(5300)

 

[unmerged(17563)]

Well sorry all i acted really stupid.

No hard feelings?

 

[unmerged(19673)]

hehehe , be happy i didn't take half of north german coast , if it would have continiud i might have vassalt you

not likely....i still had an army and navy....you could have taken control of germany, but scandinavia wouldnt have been so easy. And admit it, if you were me you would be SO relieved that france had peaced me

And no you couldnt have "continued". You could have RE DOWed, which would have cost you quite a bit of stab and would have forced you to re siege all of my provinces, forcing you to start from scratch.

 

[unmerged(19673)]

Well sorry all i acted really stupid.

No hard feelings?

Would you be willing to return to the game and not take the "game" so seriously?