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Okay I'm coming from CK2 and I got EU4 now(not a converted playthrough. Just learning the mechanics of the game), I thought hungarians would make a fun play through.
so I took over croatia 'complete annex' after I fabricated a claim.
I then 'cored' them.
Now Ottoman and Byzantine Empire along with a few other nations united to attack me under a coalition casus belli because I'm 'aggressive'.

What the hell is going on?:glare:
 

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You took a whole 4-5 provces with a CB that reduces AE to 75% for one province. That means all the others you took were at full AE. And that AE gets multiplied for many nearby nations. So yeah you probably just racked up 100+ AE. That is guaranteed to get some coalitions. Try vassalizing instead of annexing, then diplo-annex 10 years later. Way less AE.

And in general before you make a peace deal you should mouse over the AE value shown in the peace window to see how much AE your peace deal will incur among various neighbors.
 

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Before sending the peace offer, you can see how much Aggressive Expansion (AE) you will get for the annexed provinces. The important thing about AE is that every nation with relations below 0 can and will join a coalition against you. Therefore, I'd make sure that the biggest nations are above 0, but in your case, I believe it's better if nobody dislikes you that much since you are not that powerful yet...
 

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What the hell is going on?:glare:

Every aggressive action you do will result in some other nations beeing concerned. if they get to concerned they will make a coalition against you and start a punishing war because you are to aggressive.

The measure for concern in EU4 is AE.

IN CK2 there is nothing like AE in EU4. And you have to somehow manage your AE if you don't want to get attacked. Coalition and their wars are usually ugly and you won't get much reward if you win
 

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Okay I'm coming from CK2 and I got EU4 now(not a converted playthrough. Just learning the mechanics of the game), I thought hungarians would make a fun play through.
so I took over croatia 'complete annex' after I fabricated a claim.
I then 'cored' them.
Now Ottoman and Byzantine Empire along with a few other nations united to attack me under a coalition casus belli because I'm 'aggressive'.

What the hell is going on?:glare:

Thanks for not complaining about stupid stuff, but I gotta ask, how did u take over a country that is already Hungarian during the 1444 start?
 

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Thanks for not complaining about stupid stuff, but I gotta ask, how did u take over a country that is already Hungarian during the 1444 start?

I would assume he chose a different start date.

To OP's question:

Should you behave peacefully for the next 5 years or so and use your diplomats to improve relations with the coalition members, the coalitions should disband. This is usually successful, but not guaranteed.

If you want to restart, I'd suggest the same vassal> diplo-annnexing strategy recommended by others.
 

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I'll second Hungary being a difficult nation to play as while you learn the game. I've played the game for 71 hours now and understand pretty much all the mechanics yet when I tried Hungary I got pounded but for different reasons than you did. Right from the start I could never get my stability to 0 (which sounds like a low number but is actually the perfect balance you should always try to keep it at) because various events kept forcing it down to -2 and -3, I had a tiny army, tiny force limit (which is how many units you're allowed to keep in total, if you go over it they cost way more upkeep than normal), tiny manpower, tiny manpower increase when manpower was lost, no king, when I finally did get a king he sucked and so did his heir and the next one too (they sucked so bad I would have considered it divine intervention if I'd had just 1 ruler with 1/1/1 of each stat), I would never have won a war against any of my neighbours, not even the small ones but especially not Austria or Bohemia or Poland or any of those.

When I finally saw an opportunity to expand, Croatia (or is it Bosnia?) was getting beaten senseless by a rampaging peasant army, so when they had no army left and most of their provinces were besieged I fabricated a claim on one province, declared war, took it easily and made peace. Immediately afterwards, in less than 1-year, 3 rebel armies rose up in that province to defect back to Bosnia, which meant I had an army of around 30,000 men pillaging my lands and I couldn't do a single thing about them. My army was 8,000 men (6 infantry, 2 cavalry), my income was barely 1 ducat per month and I didn't have a hope in hell of hiring any mercenaries to fight the rebels.

So yeah, maybe Hungary is not the best nation for a first game, even though they look big and powerful =P
 

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Start out as a small country in the HRE or Italy. Perfect training ground to learn the ropes one piece at a time without getting overwhelmed by all the info involved in a large nation like BBB, England, or BWB.
 

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Playing as Hungary when you are beginner of EU series is not suggested at all. Try the tutorial that is a great learning feature and then pick France/Ottomans. Starting as small nation is not good also, it's not CK.

But, Portugal is one of the best tutorials, beacuse you learn the colonial system (take colonization as first idea) and you only need to keep good relations with the Spanish (break the alliance with England (and don't paticipate the hundred years war!).
If you are feeling more confident after some couple of decades (around 1550's, after starting colonization, having more advanced military tech than the Muslims and you are bored), attack Morroco (if they are not Ottoman allied or Ottomans is not the faith defender) and take 2-3 provinces only and core them for not be badboy with too much aggression (have below 70 overextension for start).
This will not be a problem when you are colonising America and invading the Native Americans, you may take all of their land at once.
 

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Since you expanded so aggressively and quickly, the other nations got anxious.

Suppose today,France attacked and tried to annex Belgium and the Netherlands. Chances are the EU won't be too happy about that.