FAL said:But when I was naval Spain in NOIV everyone told me land was better, because of hostile France and Austria
It's just who your enemies are in game I think.
perhaps you`d better change enemies and make France and Austria your ones ? :rofl:
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perhaps you`d better change enemies and make France and Austria your ones ? :rofl:
Tonioz said:
Yeh, and give me Ireland back to make England a friend.
Maybe I'm focusing on Ireland just a tat too much
In fact England can freely walk now and grab Ireland already. Watched the stats - 800 galleys against 700 warships are misery. And Porto fleet is rather small.
Tonioz said:
Hmmm... Prince Rupert lives for 12 more years. He's a nice admiral and general. Marlborough spawn 3 years after that. Interesting
Tonioz said:
Pfft, Spain can freely walk now and grab Gotland and Kopenhagen. Perhaps I should to that if England takes Ireland back with that damned Marlborough.
Quite frankly, the English leaders are so sick that no honest nation can do anything about.
Perhaps I shall edit them a little. one year per historical leader would be enough, wouldn't it?
Perhaps I shall edit them a little. one year per historical leader would be enough, wouldn't it?
do you think so ? Something tells me i doubt. Anyway we remember that Spain threated Sweden for whole game. Besides Sweden warships costs less than Spanish And events will give us soon 0 aristocracy.
And events will give us soon 0 aristocracy.
Tonioz said:
You doubt I can take Gotland and Kopenhagen?
Shall we try it out in game with a fair one-on-one then?
Anyway we remember that Spain threated Sweden for whole game. Besides Sweden warships costs less than Spanish
You are just deillusionated because I embargoed you
If I wanted to grab Gotland and Kopenhagen, I could do that 100 years ago already.
My problem with Sweden is that she has super leaders, but only uses them against:
- A. Newbie in Brandenburg
- B. Austria, per MA in France.
For the rest, Sweden just sits, buys Prussia and reads magazines and is insulted when she can't trade and hypertech for free.
While Russia is there and a fair opponent since 1560.
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FAL, to sail to Kopenhagen you need to sail via La-Manche
oh, that is really your problem, FAL ?
Then my problem is that Austria raping France, while Spain sent them money, embargoes other nation and signs TA with Austria, so even their low-TE can trade. And if Sweden wants to interfere to help France, whose MP is almost twice less, we get threats from Spain and embargo from Portugal, ordered by Spain, despite Spain got fee for trade rights. And Spain even lied us at first like Porto embargoed by his own.
Habsburg axis is way too powerful.
oh, that is really your problem, FAL ?
Then my problem is that Austria raping France, while Spain sent them money, embargoes other nation and signs TA with Austria, so even their low-TE can trade. And if Sweden wants to interfere to help France, whose MP is almost twice less, we get threats from Spain and embargo from Portugal, ordered by Spain, despite Spain got fee for trade rights. And Spain even lied us at first like Porto embargoed by his own.
Habsburg axis is way too powerful.
Tonioz said:FAL, to sail to Kopenhagen you need to sail via La-Manche
And? I said I could do it in a one on one.
As the GM, yes.
As Spain, no. If Spain had a problem with Sweden, she would have dowed already. You know this
Eh, Sweden did fight Austria, didn't she? It is not that Sweden couldn't do anything because of mean old Spain
I only told Sweden she was allowed to do a one on one with Austria, nothing more. I thought Turenne France could fight alone rather easily and I wanted to prevent a gangbang of Austria. Most Spains do this for Austria.
As for lying about the embargo, that was a misunderstanding. I didn't mean to lie about it. Spain indeed asked Portugal to embargo Sweden and I told you this in game too, when it was clear to me what you meant.
Spain honoured the trading rights Sweden bought and thus did not embargo herself till 1650.
Despite all this, Portugal lifted the embargo after the war. So, what's the problem?
BTW, quite frankly, I don't understand why Portugal and England aren't asking Sweden a fee too. There is no reason why Sweden should be able to trade for free and get rich because of it.
Well,
Sweden thinking the Habsburg axis is way too powerful, is perhaps justified (though I disagree with Spain being powerful at all
), but this is not a problem with the game. As the GM, I see it as a problem when countries are inactive, like Sweden is in this campaign. However, Spain isn't bothered with this, hence no dow in game.
As the GM I would love to see a Russian-Swedish war finally, but as Spain I can't be bothered.
If Sweden would become too powerful by waging wars, I could have a problem with it as Spain, but as the GM I would be pleased Sweden was doing this. I just don't want too much SP activities
I hope you understand what I mean.
oh, as the GM you didn`t saw lack of Russian human wars, and as the GM you said no word about insane weak France
Rest is so long discussable, so you`d better have Daniel as opponent :rofl:
Rest is so long discussable, so you`d better have Daniel as opponent :rofl:
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Tonioz said:oh, as the GM you didn`t saw lack of Russian human wars, and as the GM you said no word about insane weak France
The same criticism towards Sweden of course also counts for Russia, but since Sweden has the blonde godly leaders like Gustavus, I would say Sweden should be the one fighting with them
I would criticise Russia too if he would use Suvorov against Brandenburg.
As for a weak France, as I said: as a GM I am pleased with players fighting wars and Austria certainly did this
Daniel is gone for two weeks, so I picked you
lol, FAL
50MP Gustav fought von Mercy and Austria and not Brandenburg. Sweden dowed Austria then later, your argues are out of reality.
"As for a weak France, as I said: as a GM I am pleased with players fighting wars and Austria certainly did this"
you are pleased that France lost it alone, and did everything they stayed alone.
50MP Gustav fought von Mercy and Austria and not Brandenburg. Sweden dowed Austria then later, your argues are out of reality.
"As for a weak France, as I said: as a GM I am pleased with players fighting wars and Austria certainly did this"
you are pleased that France lost it alone, and did everything they stayed alone.
Thinking that a leaderless Russia should attack Gustavus Sweden is like critizing a leaderless Spain for not fighting Napolonic France in a 1vs1 :wacko:
Me being dead tired the last sessions doesn't help much either.
Me being dead tired the last sessions doesn't help much either.
I would like to have some more info about what happened.
Apparently Por was in war with ENG and lost, but SPA claims she has not yet lost a war. That is paradoxical. How can POR fight on their own vs ENG without their master in Madrid helping them...
Why did ENG attack POR in the first place, instead of SPA who was the one who took Ireland from ENG... POR has not taken anything from ENG in this game.
How did the war end BTW...
Sorry, I have no question mark on this stupid portuguese keyboard so I insert three dots instead of each question mark
And regardless of the outcome of this war. How come POR is still a vassal of SPA.... Smn, have you missed the whole discussion between me and FAL that fills several pages on this game thread....
I am entirely confused in regard to the logic behind what apparently took place during the session.
A little AAR would be nice to read smn.
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And the smileys appear weird as well.
Apparently Por was in war with ENG and lost, but SPA claims she has not yet lost a war. That is paradoxical. How can POR fight on their own vs ENG without their master in Madrid helping them...
Why did ENG attack POR in the first place, instead of SPA who was the one who took Ireland from ENG... POR has not taken anything from ENG in this game.
How did the war end BTW...
Sorry, I have no question mark on this stupid portuguese keyboard so I insert three dots instead of each question mark
And regardless of the outcome of this war. How come POR is still a vassal of SPA.... Smn, have you missed the whole discussion between me and FAL that fills several pages on this game thread....
I am entirely confused in regard to the logic behind what apparently took place during the session.
A little AAR would be nice to read smn.
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And the smileys appear weird as well.
I´m not completely sure as to the reason of the hostilities between Portugal and England, yet I believe that Porto instated an embargo on England, which after a brief period of heightened tensions led to war...
Correct me if I´m wrong...
Correct me if I´m wrong...
He did Embargo them.
But the english had desired to invade Portugal all along and just used the Ottoman-Spanish war as an excuse to bully the Portugese.
But the english had desired to invade Portugal all along and just used the Ottoman-Spanish war as an excuse to bully the Portugese.