New shogun, but China doesn’t want me as tributary?

[Vampiresbane]

When I became Shogun as Uesgi, China wouldn’t accept me as a tributary. Tooltip listed-1000 for “Strategic” reasons.

Um, what? All your existing tributaries surround you; why am I the bad egg?

 

[aono]

When I became Shogun as Uesgi, China wouldn’t accept me as a tributary. Tooltip listed-1000 for “Strategic” reasons.

What's your relationships with China?
If they're rival or hostile, I can understand they don't want to take non-agression and, even more, be obliged to defend you.

 

[Parapluman]

Conquer some land next to a country that already is a Chinese tributary. I think that might help.
The -1000 modifier was added this patch to prevent faraway nations from becoming tributaries. (like Andalusia)
You probably qualify since you're overseas.

Edit: played around with the console a bit and the above seems to be the case. You need to border china or a Chinese tributary. (a sea border also counts) Another solution is to colonize Taiwan. They will accept a tributary request in that case.

 

[dynalon]

What's your relationships with China?
If they're rival or hostile, I can understand they don't want to take non-agression and, even more, be obliged to defend you.

Rivalry is a -50 modifier to accept tributary status - I'm in a similar situation in my current Orissa run (where they were able to rival me when their force limit was about 4x my own -.-). I do remember that they asked me to become their tributary state in my own Japan run despite rivalry, so it was possible that their strategic interest (which will become a positive modifier if you're close enough) can overcome that -50 in 1.22.

 

[Vampiresbane]

Thanks guys. I’ll give colonizing Taiwan a try. Otherwise I’ll check my relationship bc I do share a sea border being Japan and all.

 

[YuriiH]

Thanks guys. I’ll give colonizing Taiwan a try.

You need to have direct land connection to have a chance for this modifier to disappear. Unfortunately, the island of Taiwan won't help.

 

[Parapluman]

You need to have direct land connection to have a chance for this modifier to disappear. Unfortunately, the island of Taiwan won't help.

This is incorrect. At least in my game Ming does offer tributary status if you have a Taiwanese province. (or even just a colony)

You need to border Ming or a tributary of Ming and sea borders do count.
(so basically if you can fabricate a claim on ming or one of its tributaries you're good)

 

[ywxiao]

Conquer some land next to a country that already is a Chinese tributary. I think that might help.
The -1000 modifier was added this patch to prevent faraway nations from becoming tributaries. (like Andalusia)
You probably qualify since you're overseas.

Edit: played around with the console a bit and the above seems to be the case. You need to border china or a Chinese tributary. (a sea border also counts) Another solution is to colonize Taiwan. They will accept a tributary request in that case.

It was in the game before this patch too, but Ming will regularly reevaluate this. I remember getting this in a 1.20 multiplayer game as the shogun, it went away fast enough.