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Ozzies nets still down, Optus say he wont be back up for another 72hours max.
Keep an eye here i guess see if he gets back on in the next day.
Keep an eye here i guess see if he gets back on in the next day.
72 hrs takes us through to thursday night.
If he gets it back tonight Ill play. Im not playing wedensday night and thursday night if i play, im only playing abyss (and i mean that).
So friday night is probable next session at this stage.
If he gets it back tonight Ill play. Im not playing wedensday night and thursday night if i play, im only playing abyss (and i mean that).
So friday night is probable next session at this stage.
OK. My net is back up and stable for now. I don't know for how long as apparently it is a region wide problem with my ISP, fingers crossed it remains stable. But while I have my net back up and running I wish to bring a few things to light, which after much thought has brought me to my coming conclusion which I'll discuss below.
In all my time I have been playing this game I was taught to micro-manage everything, economy, convoys ect ect. After several reloads for sessions Mighty (who also micro-manages everything to my knowledge), told me all his convoys had been reset. When I checked so had mine, strange but at the time I didn't think much of it. Then came the mysterious German supply bug where apparently Gunny was losing 300+ supplies a day to some imaginary convoy feeding supplies to Africa when it was completely controlled by Italy. At this stage I was still onboard to join the Axis so I loaded the German save and sore that there was no convoy running to Africa what-so-ever and I also noticed that Germany had absolutely no IC going into supply production what-so-ever. This is the only reason why Germany was losing 300+ supplies a day, because they literally weren't building any. Then I think it was Boof said that Gunny was talking about editing in himself some supplies. To my knowledge it has always been an unspoken rule in the Aussie group that if edit's of supps, MP ect ect are going to be made then it is discussed with the group. I checked the German save more closely and it appears that Gunny had infact edited in approximately 100'000 supps for Germany. It had not been discussed with the group and it should not have been done...
After the Axis debacle in Barbarossa were Germany found itself outnumbered roughly 2 to 1 all over the front and being pushed back into Poland and Eastern Prussia, the Axis demanded a reload or pretty much the game was over. I beleive prior to this game we as a group, atleast the Majority of us regulars decided unanimously. That if you get beaten and annexed early, then there is to be no going back to old saves or temporary NAP deals made between individual nations. Due to Rastius not wanting to ruin the game for the rest of us he aggreed to go back to an older save before Germany had been hammered. I joined the Commintern and the Axis went from heavily outnumbered to having almost the same amount of divisions if not more against us, quite puzzling to me. Then I noticed at the start of a couple of sessions that there had been several Axis minors flags show up on the country selection screen, so I got curious. I loaded up as Every axis minor, Naty Spain, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, Turkey and I checked the build ques. Each and every build que had perfect serials of 10 inf, 10 mountains, 10 arm ect ect running. Naty Spain had 2 by 30 garrisons running, I have never seen build ques like this by any AI nation. So I called Mighty and informed Rastius and got both of them to check the build ques, they also aggreed that the builds for the ai Axis minors were odd at best. The only axis minor that didn't have an edited build que was Turkey, they had 2 single infantry divisions running. Then the next session came and suprise suprise. The Turkish flag was in the country selection screen. Just after my net dropped out I quickly made a save. I loaded as Turkey and I was finally convinced, they had 3 by 10 serials of infantry in the production que as well as there 2 single infantry divs. Gunny has been editing in build ques for his minors which to my knowledge in any HOI gaming group is a no no unless there is a regular player that controls that minor...
I walked out of a game with a bunch of Greek puta's 9-12 months ago for dodgy gamey shit. I know you asked me if I wanted you to edit my China build que and I said no, if you had to do anything then just put in 1 long serial of garrisons with MP brigades. You went ahead and edited in like 2 or 3 serials anyway which I bluntly told you I didn't want. But the point of the matter is, like editing in yourself supplies. You never once discussed with the group about editing build ques for minors, not once. But unlike yourself, I am not going to hold the group at guns point and demand we go back to an old save before the damage is done. Like I did 9-12 months ago, I am offically done with this game. You can look for a new Japan, otherwise game is over. I will continue the Abyss game as I know I can trust Mighty and Rastius not to do dodgy shit. If we ever play again, then you Gunny will most certainly not be the host, or I will most certainly not be playing... SE.
In all my time I have been playing this game I was taught to micro-manage everything, economy, convoys ect ect. After several reloads for sessions Mighty (who also micro-manages everything to my knowledge), told me all his convoys had been reset. When I checked so had mine, strange but at the time I didn't think much of it. Then came the mysterious German supply bug where apparently Gunny was losing 300+ supplies a day to some imaginary convoy feeding supplies to Africa when it was completely controlled by Italy. At this stage I was still onboard to join the Axis so I loaded the German save and sore that there was no convoy running to Africa what-so-ever and I also noticed that Germany had absolutely no IC going into supply production what-so-ever. This is the only reason why Germany was losing 300+ supplies a day, because they literally weren't building any. Then I think it was Boof said that Gunny was talking about editing in himself some supplies. To my knowledge it has always been an unspoken rule in the Aussie group that if edit's of supps, MP ect ect are going to be made then it is discussed with the group. I checked the German save more closely and it appears that Gunny had infact edited in approximately 100'000 supps for Germany. It had not been discussed with the group and it should not have been done...
After the Axis debacle in Barbarossa were Germany found itself outnumbered roughly 2 to 1 all over the front and being pushed back into Poland and Eastern Prussia, the Axis demanded a reload or pretty much the game was over. I beleive prior to this game we as a group, atleast the Majority of us regulars decided unanimously. That if you get beaten and annexed early, then there is to be no going back to old saves or temporary NAP deals made between individual nations. Due to Rastius not wanting to ruin the game for the rest of us he aggreed to go back to an older save before Germany had been hammered. I joined the Commintern and the Axis went from heavily outnumbered to having almost the same amount of divisions if not more against us, quite puzzling to me. Then I noticed at the start of a couple of sessions that there had been several Axis minors flags show up on the country selection screen, so I got curious. I loaded up as Every axis minor, Naty Spain, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, Turkey and I checked the build ques. Each and every build que had perfect serials of 10 inf, 10 mountains, 10 arm ect ect running. Naty Spain had 2 by 30 garrisons running, I have never seen build ques like this by any AI nation. So I called Mighty and informed Rastius and got both of them to check the build ques, they also aggreed that the builds for the ai Axis minors were odd at best. The only axis minor that didn't have an edited build que was Turkey, they had 2 single infantry divisions running. Then the next session came and suprise suprise. The Turkish flag was in the country selection screen. Just after my net dropped out I quickly made a save. I loaded as Turkey and I was finally convinced, they had 3 by 10 serials of infantry in the production que as well as there 2 single infantry divs. Gunny has been editing in build ques for his minors which to my knowledge in any HOI gaming group is a no no unless there is a regular player that controls that minor...
I walked out of a game with a bunch of Greek puta's 9-12 months ago for dodgy gamey shit. I know you asked me if I wanted you to edit my China build que and I said no, if you had to do anything then just put in 1 long serial of garrisons with MP brigades. You went ahead and edited in like 2 or 3 serials anyway which I bluntly told you I didn't want. But the point of the matter is, like editing in yourself supplies. You never once discussed with the group about editing build ques for minors, not once. But unlike yourself, I am not going to hold the group at guns point and demand we go back to an old save before the damage is done. Like I did 9-12 months ago, I am offically done with this game. You can look for a new Japan, otherwise game is over. I will continue the Abyss game as I know I can trust Mighty and Rastius not to do dodgy shit. If we ever play again, then you Gunny will most certainly not be the host, or I will most certainly not be playing... SE.
- 2 Rehosts at critical points changing the game dynamics.
- Unsolicited editing of Supplies 100,000
- Unsolicited editing of minor build cues
- Japan in Commitern and not Axis
The game is now farcial at best. So i agree it is game over.
- Unsolicited editing of Supplies 100,000
- Unsolicited editing of minor build cues
- Japan in Commitern and not Axis
The game is now farcial at best. So i agree it is game over.
Yes i editor
Minor for china , My minor aswell as talked to boof for aust , canada etc ..
As to supply yes there is a bug for 300+ per day that is was there .I told boof and troy about it and Stalin at the time from down afika . Boof editor the save so italy got the land and ended my supply running to there but that dont help , So boof said to give some supplys .So that is what we done .
If i was cheating shouldn"t i be winning ?
Well you can all have your say ,anyway .
Minor for china , My minor aswell as talked to boof for aust , canada etc ..
As to supply yes there is a bug for 300+ per day that is was there .I told boof and troy about it and Stalin at the time from down afika . Boof editor the save so italy got the land and ended my supply running to there but that dont help , So boof said to give some supplys .So that is what we done .
If i was cheating shouldn"t i be winning ?
Well you can all have your say ,anyway .
Gunships said:
- You werent and were never supplying Africa. No Germany EVER does. ITALY DOES. 100,000 supplies is Excessive to say the very least. (100,000 supps = 25000 IC DAYS or 40IC for approximatel 150+Days).......
- Minors should never have build cues setup unless someone is playing them. We have Never done this and i dont know what possesed you to do it.
*In both instances it should have been raised and voted on in the forum (here) by all players on how to correct the problem. That is Aussie Group Rules. I didn't invent them.
- With the loss of two saves and going back at extremely key points in the game and the Japs joining the Commitern the game is artificial at the very least. Allies have had to make deals with both Axis and Commitern in areas of the planet we wouldn't have if the game was OK (ie, handing over of india to japs, delayed actions in pacific, munster withdrawing from africa and delayed fighting for Allies to make an attempt at Suez.
This is my 3rd attempyt at USA with Aussie Group and once again it has fallen on its arse. For anyone wanting to know id have 5 Nuclear reactors built by December 23 1943, with the 6th and final once i got the breakthrough in the secret Techs. Whenever that would be.
For now i am going to stick with Abyss and weekend games. Major is back and Mike wont be to far off from what Munster man was telling us last night so the Numbers still exist for a regular game.
Im just tired of shennanigans and i want to Nuke someones arse. Having said allt hat it is no 4PM and i could be here till about 8PM so im off before that 8PM turns into 10PM.
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Well in miult player all i know is that is dont fix up till Uk taken back afika , say what you like ,when in single player is was ok but not in muilt player
well have your say that is ok .
So from your last line that major and mike are back so still player ,
I have been voted out of group ?
well have your say that is ok .
So from your last line that major and mike are back so still player ,
I have been voted out of group ?
A vote?
We dont vote people out, we vote in what games we join and dont join and for the next few weeks at leastim just playing abyss.
Each man make his own choice.
We dont vote people out, we vote in what games we join and dont join and for the next few weeks at leastim just playing abyss.
Each man make his own choice.
No ones voting anyone out of anything Gunny.
The game is farcial at best surely you can see this? Lets not beat a dead horse the game is sunk.
The game is farcial at best surely you can see this? Lets not beat a dead horse the game is sunk.
Get back to work mighty, stop ya postin, youll be there tomorrow night at this rate.