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Birger said:This game will convert plenty of RTW players.
Ehh, I wouldn't say that. RTW people are more Grand land battles. Only Hybrids like myself will enjoy this game for its great diplomance, and Charater personalization, even if its the expense of Awsome land battles.
Fijj said:
Well not all RTW players prefer the land battles. And besides there haven't been any other good Rome game, until now.
Birger said:Well not all RTW players prefer the land battles. And besides there haven't been any other good Rome game, until now.
I agree, I've missed a game like this, covering this period and place in a good manner. There are other games of course, but not with the complexity I want. I have had to live with Rome Total War until now. EU:Rome will of course be a much better strategy game, no doubts there.
Well, there's Pax Romana, which, btw, isn't so bad at all (it's based on the EU engine, btw). But it only lets you play Rome and focuses on internal politics. As for the very late empire, Great Invasions is your bet (also EU-engine based). The interesting point is that no one bothered to make a game about the High Empire, which is very disappointing given the possibilities for modeling internal politics and massive succession wars.
I already made a prediction, in a different thread, that the first expansion to Rome will be a High/Late Empire period game, lasting into the 7th century, so ha
EU: Rome is destined to be what many of us had hoped Pax Romana would be. If Dreamsnatcher could have been bothered to issue a couple of patches, Pax could have been great.
This will be better, deeper because it will go all the way to the fall of Rome, I hope.
I don't know about "deeper," Pax Romana is a VERY complicated game. One of its downfalls, perhaps. Actually, I don't think I ever ran into any terrible bugs while playing it, it's perfectly playable as is and there's an official grand campaign available (I think I have it on a different PC), if I'm not mistaken.
One big advantage Rome has, however, is that you don't have to play just Rome. I personally will probably end up playing the Hellenistic monarchies all the time.
One big advantage Rome has, however, is that you don't have to play just Rome. I personally will probably end up playing the Hellenistic monarchies all the time.
Birger said:Well not all RTW players prefer the land battles. And besides there haven't been any other good Rome game, until now.
Umm, then why play RTW? Horrid history, stupied diplomace, only like 15 factions. Battles are the only reason in my opinoin
somehow i have the feeling it had since the beginnig that primary goal (to kick TW butt)Birger said:This game will convert plenty of RTW players.
Fijj said:
Like I said, there haven't been any better game. Even I'm playing it and it's not for the battles...
Fijj said:
Wretched strategic AI who gangs up on the human player or makes other suicidal decisions. With no strategic sense at all. Poor tactical AI which can not do more then organize your troops front to yours and hardly responds to flanking. Alliances which have no values at all as AI cannot handle wars that are far away from it's boarders. But still, epic battles look great! And the game is much better with EB mode
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Balor said:
It very clearly is based on the EU engine, as is the Great Invasions. At the very least, that's the claim of the developers and that's how the game works (there are some little things that clearly give away that it's based on EU). In fact, if you don't know it, the developer of Pax Romana and Great Invasions claims that he participated in the development of EU, which always puzzled me (in fact, to have been THE developer of EU).
Philippe Thibeault developed the EU boardgame that computer EU is based on. There is no doubt that Pax is very similar to the EU games. I wouldn't expect anything other than that.
I agree. I was one of the biggest modmen for RTW and I'm here.Birger said:Well not all RTW players prefer the land battles. And besides there haven't been any other good Rome game, until now.
That must count for something in the big cosmic abacus. Hell I even want to set up a Roman family system on my forums like we established at TWC for EU:R. All I need to do yet is to find a graphic artist that is much better then me, which should not be hard given I have no talent.
I played TW for the campaign mode, but then again, I don't play Total War anymore
But since Paradox are as unknown as they are compared to CA, I think many people are playing TW because they don't know that paradox games exist or don't know how good they are
but obviously, most TW players play for the battles
But since Paradox are as unknown as they are compared to CA, I think many people are playing TW because they don't know that paradox games exist or don't know how good they are
but obviously, most TW players play for the battles