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If the Saxons are sharing portraits with the Normans, I'm "afraid" we won't ever see the default Western European portraits with the Jellybean crown anymore, except maybe in the Hungarians' case, but, as I said in my late post, I don't think that only they're the ones to be left with the default portraits, and I hope they share portraits with the Croats, for example...




That's something I've been thinking about for years... Maybe simple Clothing Packs (plus maybe Hairstyles and Beards) would've been enough to represent cultural differences in some cases, instead of completely different faces.

I just want to see some variety in crowns and coronets. Britannia should have a different Imperial Tier crown than the HRE does, or Byzantium. The same goes for Francia, the Carpathian Empire, and even the Wendish Empire.

The more crown and coronet styles the better!
 

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I just want to see some variety in crowns and coronets. Britannia should have a different Imperial Tier crown than the HRE does, or Byzantium. The same goes for Francia, the Carpathian Empire, and even the Wendish Empire.

The more crown and coronet styles the better!

Then how about the idea that instead of imperial crowns being tied to culture, they'd give each Empire-tier title its own crown? (A different crown for Britannia, Scandinavia, the HRE, Francia etc etc etc)

Edit: Of course, it would also be nice if they'd show those crowns from the smith event chain in our characters' portraits...maybe add a few more crown choices to that one and it'd be cool.
 

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Then how about the idea that instead of imperial crowns being tied to culture, they'd give each Empire-tier title its own crown? (A different crown for Britannia, Scandinavia, the HRE, Francia etc etc etc)

Edit: Of course, it would also be nice if they'd show those crowns from the smith event chain in our characters' portraits...maybe add a few more crown choices to that one and it'd be cool.

And how about not cropping the crowns anymore? I want to see every peak and every spire!
 

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Does anyone know if any ethnicity in this game switches hairstyles based on Pagan VS. urbanized/civilized religious conversion? CPR+ is a mod, but it does that for groups such as the Hungarians, Avars, and the Norse, which have different hairstyles depending on whether they are of a Pagan religion, or Christian, Muslim, or another religion from a more urban-based civilization.

Norse portraits have slightly different hairstyles and beards when they're pagans. They have longer beards, and braids which dissapear when they become Christians.
 

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Norse portraits have slightly different hairstyles and beards when they're pagans. They have longer beards, and braids which dissapear when they become Christians.

OK, thanks! I have been playing with mods for so long, I forgot that it was a default feature, as well. I am pleasantly surprised that there is precedent for it already, in the regular game.
 

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Nepalis are also in the same group as Bengalis, but they still use different portraits. The same for the French and Italians.

I think, I've read somewhere that there are three new different portrait sets for the Slavs.

I suppose one for the Poles and Bohemians, another one for the Croats and one for the Serbs, Bulgarians and Vlachs.

View attachment 370873
where did you even get these pics?
 

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Would you, if they allowed you, change any of your portrait packs?

It's hard to answer questions like this without dealing with a few salient issues that are seemingly unique to my role as both artist and community member, like an oft-occurring confusion as to whether I'm a PDS employee or not (I'm not), and whether anything I say is or should be taken as "official" or not (Generally it shouldn't).

That being said, my answer, without any commitment or 'officiality' to it is; Of course. If I came into "Powerball Money" tomorrow and could devote my entire free time to it I'd probably redo a lot of them. I'd love to have a way to incorporate ethnicity and inheritability into a unified system; to have a dual system of hairstyling on both a universal and culturally-specific ruleset; to have proper (multiple) distinct species systems (for fantasy mods), and to have a dynamic clothing system based on a multi-layered approach combining universal sets, culturally-specific sets, wealth-based displays, sumptuary and vestimentary laws/rules, and title-specific parts, all influenced by timed introductions of features of dress (French influence on English courts in the 12th century, or foreign Levantine visitors bringing Eastern styles to Andalusia, or the introduction and then dismissal of Turbans in favor of the woolen ghifara in Andalusia through the tenure of the Almoravid/Almohad rulers, etc.)

To give a rather extreme example, imagine a Malian father and a Finnish mother. Their kid would have a mix of features (since my ideal system would have every possible "piece" rendering uniformly in a range of shades) both African and European with a middle skin tone. Over time, depending on the breeding, such a character's dependents would gravitate towards one way or another, maybe adopting traits of the local population to assimilate (and so on). Maybe this same character somehow becomes a claimant to a Byzantine rump state based in the southern Balkans, and has some significant wealth from his Malian father. So, maybe he has the "T-Tunic" collar and vertical panels with embroidered pearls of a Byzantine-style Balkan ruler, and is rich enough to afford a Tyrian Purple chlamys with brocade and paneled lozenges as a challenger to traditional Byzantine rule. But, he's not rich enough to go "full Byzzie" and has a simpler imitation crown with smaller pendilia and less ornate jewel- and goldwork. (I hope this illustrates what I mean).
 

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It's hard to answer questions like this without dealing with a few salient issues that are seemingly unique to my role as both artist and community member, like an oft-occurring confusion as to whether I'm a PDS employee or not (I'm not), and whether anything I say is or should be taken as "official" or not (Generally it shouldn't).

That being said, my answer, without any commitment or 'officiality' to it is; Of course. If I came into "Powerball Money" tomorrow and could devote my entire free time to it I'd probably redo a lot of them. I'd love to have a way to incorporate ethnicity and inheritability into a unified system; to have a dual system of hairstyling on both a universal and culturally-specific ruleset; to have proper (multiple) distinct species systems (for fantasy mods), and to have a dynamic clothing system based on a multi-layered approach combining universal sets, culturally-specific sets, wealth-based displays, sumptuary and vestimentary laws/rules, and title-specific parts, all influenced by timed introductions of features of dress (French influence on English courts in the 12th century, or foreign Levantine visitors bringing Eastern styles to Andalusia, or the introduction and then dismissal of Turbans in favor of the woolen ghifara in Andalusia through the tenure of the Almoravid/Almohad rulers, etc.)

To give a rather extreme example, imagine a Malian father and a Finnish mother. Their kid would have a mix of features (since my ideal system would have every possible "piece" rendering uniformly in a range of shades) both African and European with a middle skin tone. Over time, depending on the breeding, such a character's dependents would gravitate towards one way or another, maybe adopting traits of the local population to assimilate (and so on). Maybe this same character somehow becomes a claimant to a Byzantine rump state based in the southern Balkans, and has some significant wealth from his Malian father. So, maybe he has the "T-Tunic" collar and vertical panels with embroidered pearls of a Byzantine-style Balkan ruler, and is rich enough to afford a Tyrian Purple chlamys with brocade and paneled lozenges as a challenger to traditional Byzantine rule. But, he's not rich enough to go "full Byzzie" and has a simpler imitation crown with smaller pendilia and less ornate jewel- and goldwork. (I hope this illustrates what I mean).
Ugh, if only that could come true. Having dynamic clothing options and trends would be an amazing add on.

On another thought, I'm hoping for some badassery with the Italian portraits, finally no more Castilian robes when I'm ruling from Rome.
 
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It's hard to answer questions like this without dealing with a few salient issues that are seemingly unique to my role as both artist and community member, like an oft-occurring confusion as to whether I'm a PDS employee or not (I'm not), and whether anything I say is or should be taken as "official" or not (Generally it shouldn't).

That being said, my answer, without any commitment or 'officiality' to it is; Of course. If I came into "Powerball Money" tomorrow and could devote my entire free time to it I'd probably redo a lot of them. I'd love to have a way to incorporate ethnicity and inheritability into a unified system; to have a dual system of hairstyling on both a universal and culturally-specific ruleset; to have proper (multiple) distinct species systems (for fantasy mods), and to have a dynamic clothing system based on a multi-layered approach combining universal sets, culturally-specific sets, wealth-based displays, sumptuary and vestimentary laws/rules, and title-specific parts, all influenced by timed introductions of features of dress (French influence on English courts in the 12th century, or foreign Levantine visitors bringing Eastern styles to Andalusia, or the introduction and then dismissal of Turbans in favor of the woolen ghifara in Andalusia through the tenure of the Almoravid/Almohad rulers, etc.)

To give a rather extreme example, imagine a Malian father and a Finnish mother. Their kid would have a mix of features (since my ideal system would have every possible "piece" rendering uniformly in a range of shades) both African and European with a middle skin tone. Over time, depending on the breeding, such a character's dependents would gravitate towards one way or another, maybe adopting traits of the local population to assimilate (and so on). Maybe this same character somehow becomes a claimant to a Byzantine rump state based in the southern Balkans, and has some significant wealth from his Malian father. So, maybe he has the "T-Tunic" collar and vertical panels with embroidered pearls of a Byzantine-style Balkan ruler, and is rich enough to afford a Tyrian Purple chlamys with brocade and paneled lozenges as a challenger to traditional Byzantine rule. But, he's not rich enough to go "full Byzzie" and has a simpler imitation crown with smaller pendilia and less ornate jewel- and goldwork. (I hope this illustrates what I mean).

Please! Win that Powerball ASAP! I love your ideas!
 

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Some new handsome portraits taken from today's DD

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French Horselord with tribal chief
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West Slavic Emperor and counts
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An Emperor (Probably Italian)
 
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@CrackdToothGrin will there be more portrait sets coming with Holy Fury aside from the already announced ones? I'm curious if you are working on something else or might be making something new still, specially being that release is still a few months away by all accounts.

Not that I'm complaining or anything, 5 new sets of portraits is more than we ever got and your work is always getting better :p

With the new sets we have most of Europe visually covered, but there are still some old eyesores needing your work around the map(specially the arab/berber portraits).
 

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They all look pretty good. I would just they rather release the dlc. I am ready for it.

I will be disappointed that Saxons will be stock but that is a smol sacrifice to make. I will just wait to play them in the future when they look proper. I still think they should look like English but with different haircuts and more knotty beards and whatnot. Until then, I will have plenty of time to play as French again and also shattered world ppl.
 

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Am I the only who thinks the (probably Italian) Emperor looks like Tom Green?
 

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I'm just wondering what the Deus Vult helmet in one of the photos is for. I'm guessing it will be a Crusader equivalent of a Warrior Lodge since I don't see the Holy Orders using it and we know that we will never play as Holy Orders (although it makes sense that there are events like knightly orders you can make). Actually a 'warrior lodge' for actual kingdoms has a lot more of a place in history than the warrior lodges. Main thing is that there are room for both.

Anyway I think that's what the helmet is for - it's the Christian equivalent of a mask for a warrior clubhouse.
 

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I'm just wondering what the Deus Vult helmet in one of the photos is for. I'm guessing it will be a Crusader equivalent of a Warrior Lodge since I don't see the Holy Orders using it and we know that we will never play as Holy Orders (although it makes sense that there are events like knightly orders you can make). Actually a 'warrior lodge' for actual kingdoms has a lot more of a place in history than the warrior lodges. Main thing is that there are room for both.

Anyway I think that's what the helmet is for - it's the Christian equivalent of a mask for a warrior clubhouse.

If you mean this one with "Deus vult Helmet"
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At the moment it was seen sported only by a templar grand master leading troops during the stream. At peace the GM revertet to the classic norman armor.
 

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Oh my....is it really a Paradox DLC? Holy Fury has twice contents as much as previous DLCs! It will be as good as it cost!
damn well better be! its gonna be a whole year since the last dlc release by this november. At the very least itll be 11 months since its unlikely to release this month