New Player's First Game; and a Question

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For the TL;DR version, see the last paragraph below.

I bought Stellaris just after 2.2 was released. Now normally I’m not into 4x/strategy games, but the description for this one sounded interesting, and with Steam having the new release on sale, bundled with a couple DLC items, I decided to give it a try. I must say, I’m having a blast so far. I’m sure much of the following will be wrote for most of you, but hopefully it’s at least somewhat of an interesting read.

I started in a tiny galaxy with everything set to the defaults. I figured I’d start small and just get my feet wet for my first game. It took some getting used to, managing the economy, building my fleet up, scanning new systems, etc. The tutorial was helpful in the very early game, but I felt it could hold a new player’s hand a fair bit longer than it did. I had to check the Wiki and search on-line for some answers.

Eventually the tiny galaxy’s inhabitants were fully revealed to me, with a friendly neighbor on one side, a hostile on the other, and a couple others too far away from me in the early game to care about. I had colonized some new planets, and after getting the hang of things, my economy was humming along nicely. I chose the “United Nations of Earth” for my starting player type, or whatever it’s really called. I made pacts with the nice neighbor, and hurled insults and animosity to the other.

Eventually a marauder fleet appears in one section of the galaxy, and my enemy to the north quickly hired them to teach me a lesson. They marched through his territory and came into my domain, advancing rapidly through three systems. My force was insignificant compared to theirs, and all I could do was watch as they attacked one of my colonies. Interestingly, they chose to enslave only 17% of the population before they deemed I had been taught said lesson, at which point they vacated my territory promptly.

I kept building up my fleet, and decided it was time to repay my enemy in kind. I made some claims on his territory and marched in through a choke point in his domain. I took a couple systems quickly, when his main fleet showed up, and I dispatched it after a satisfying fight. I had to learn the mechanics of war in Stellaris at this point, as the tutorial had nothing in it pertaining to combat that I recall. It took a few reloads of save games to undo some foolish initial decisions on my part.

I eventually got him to 100% war exhaustion, which I thought would force him to automatically capitulate, but it was quite a while after that before he finally gave in, and it was that in-between acceptance of defeat that didn’t give me all the territory I’d laid claim to. Still, it was a win, so I continued to colonize additional worlds in my domain, build my economy up, and war on him further. It got to the point where the only way I could get him to fully surrender was to take control of nearly every system in his domain.

By this point he was crushed, when suddenly that marauder empire turned into this “Kahn” I’d read much about when researching this game. As expected his fleets were overwhelmingly powerful, and they devastated the surrounding empires, my friendly neighbor included. But then, right on my doorstop, after taking over only one system of mine at the edge of my space, they stopped. They could have stamped me into the dust, but didn’t, and within a few years turned friendly (which I later found out is pretty much scripted to happen, or at least stop being belligerent, correct me if I’m wrong).

The refugees caused by this were massive, and my economy tanked hard. I must admit, at this point I thought I had done something wrong in this first play through and seriously considered quitting and starting over. Fortunately I decided to tough it out, and while it took maybe 5 or 10 years, the economy was repaired, with most resources generating in the triple digits, and I was glad I decided to keep playing as it taught me how to recover from things like this, which I would certainly need for future games.

Empires split into new factions, wars were fought, and the former Kahn’s territory and I were now like peas and carrots. It was late game and coming up on 2500, and the numbers on the leaderboard had me for the easy win. And then (I assume) the real end-game begin. The warning about an out-of-galaxy invasion fleet heading our way had me building my fleet up as rapidly as possible, but when they arrived it seemed pretty hopeless.

Their multiple 40k blobs crushed everything in their path. I keep building my fleet while they took over approximately 40% of the galaxy. I finally had my own 40k fleet that was able to destroy the first of theirs, but it took time to repair and replace ships while they pressed their advantage. But then, just as with the Kahn, they seemed to peter out. They took a few of my systems, parked a blob stack at a choke point, and sat there.

I killed the blob on the choke point several times, until another force rose up, some kind of beings also from out of the galaxy who can integrate with our races, and encouraged me to keep fighting. I did, and they eventually gave me one of their 40k blobs to use along with mine. I’m sure this is all familiar to you vets of this game.

Eventually, while this new force mostly sat and watched, and everyone else in the galaxy with no ships left to muster, I curb-stomped the invaders. All of their ships are destroyed, and all systems they claimed have been cleared of their star bases. There are still many planets that they have colonized, but nothing I do seems effective at evicting them. Orbital bombardment does nothing.

Once again my economy was a wreck, but once more I was able to repair the damage, and in the process take most of the territory the invaders had previously occupied, now controlling about half the galaxy in the process.

AND FINALLY, MY MAIN QUESTION: When does this game end? Unless I’m mistaken, it should have ended in the year 2500, but because of the invasion, it says something to the effect of the game can’t end yet. I can’t seem to clear the invader’s colonies from the planets they control, even though every other trace of them has been wiped out. There was a message about a drone finding a queen, or something of the invaders, and research was going to be done, but so far nothing. Is there something I need to do, or is it just a matter of waiting out a timer or something? It’s been a blast, and I want to experience the final thrill of victory, but I’m also eager to start a fresh game with my few found play experience; I’ve been playing for over 45 real hours on this one game (I hit “pause” a lot). Or, is there yet more to come? Feel free to spoil me!
 
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The technically doesn't end in the sense you can no longer play past a certain point. At least if there is a definitive end point I have never reached one. In Paradox's historical stratgey games there is a specific date where the game stops, but as far as I know this isn't the case with Stellaris. So essentially the game ends when you decide it's over.
 

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Far better than my first game, congrats :)

2500 (or whatever you set in the initial settings) just shows you a simple "Empire X won" screen, you can continue the game afterwards.

Anyway, I'm not sure but it sounds like a bug.
it says something to the effect of the came can’t end yet.
What exactly do you do to see this message?

I had Prethoryn in my first 2.2 game, but they basically landed in the middle of my fleet, so it wasn't the kind of a protracted fight it usually is, and before 2.2 victory conditions worked differently.
 

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There is technically no end to the game, you can have the game tell you that the person with the highest score "won" at the time you tell it to but mostly the game ends when you want it to end, there is no arbitrary limit like in a lot of other strategy games.

Also, I'd like to point out that 2.2 is fairly recent and still pretty buggy, so you might encounter a lot of bugs and some of the things you thought were features might not be one in the end.

As for the Prethoryn (the invaders) they're basically tyrannids, the only way to get rid of them is to bomb their worlds to the ground. To.The.Ground. Literally bomb it until all life is wiped off the face of the planet and it becomes a barren world (note that it's only possible to do that on infested worlds, aka invaders worlds). Also the guys that gave you ships are the sentinels, A rag tag group of leftover militaries and refugees from the Empires the Scourge has wiped out, they're from your galaxy, not from another.
 

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Far better than my first game, congrats :)

2500 (or whatever you set in the initial settings) just shows you a simple "Empire X won" screen, you can continue the game afterwards.

Anyway, I'm not sure but it sounds like a bug.

What exactly do you do to see this message?

I had Prethoryn in my first 2.2 game, but they basically landed in the middle of my fleet, so it wasn't the kind of a protracted fight it usually is, and before 2.2 victory conditions worked differently.

Crap, I'm at work now, so I can't remember the exact name of the area. It's in the flyout menu to the left, the second one down, that shows you important info, etc. It's the third tab on that screen.
 

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Like another poster said, this went WAY better than my first game, so well done!

To your question: you can try to trigger the victory screen by fulfilling other win conditions, I guess (e.g. you or your federation controlling 40% of habitable planets) and see if that takes you to the victory screen.

Or you can just start a new game! Many more adventures await. :)
 

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Crap, I'm at work now, so I can't remember the exact name of the area. It's in the flyout menu to the left, the second one down, that shows you important info, etc. It's the third tab on that screen.
OK, that's where the victory conditions are, but I never saw this... As I said, the victory system is new, the games last a while, so there probably aren't that many people who saw this situation right now.

I guess the game expects you to bomb Prethoryn worlds and/or deal with the queen...

Like another poster said, this went WAY better than my first game, so well done!

To your question: you can try to trigger the victory screen by fulfilling other win conditions, I guess (e.g. you or your federation controlling 40% of habitable planets) and see if that takes you to the victory screen.

Or you can just start a new game! Many more adventures await. :)
They removed all that in 2.2...
There's no more separate dominance/federation/conquest conditions, as federation membership is rolled into the score, and the empires that are no longer there are simply erased from the board.
 

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Victory isn't evaluated until the crisis is defeated. Sounds like there's a bug that's preventing that crisis faction from being exterminated.
 

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Victory isn't evaluated until the crisis is defeated. Sounds like there's a bug that's preventing that crisis faction from being exterminated.
This. I just had a game that I set the end date at 2450 but I wasn't able to finish the contingency off until 2455, at which point I got the game end screen.
 

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Yeah, victory screen can't trigger until crisis is defeated. You should be able to bomb their worlds into oblivion, not sure why that's not working. Also they shouldn't have stopped gobbling up the galaxy - while the Khan eventually dies and his empire breaks up, the end-game Crisis should keep going until it either eats the whole galaxy or is defeated. Sounds like another bug to me.
But yeah, the Victory Screen is just a quick popup saying 'hooray, you won!'. Then the game continues as if nothing happened. The real end of the game is whenever you feel satisfied it's over, whether before or after the end-date.