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don't they just reform their state in another Catholic country if Papal State ceases to exist?
At least thats what it has been in 1.7 and earlier

I'm pretty certain that it still works that way. If the Papacy gets full-annexed, it rocks up in another Catholic province.
 

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I am generally enjoying the bonuses, plus I like the fact that it is harder for any one country to really dominate the Curia anymore (Even though in the past I was the one who generally dominated)

This past playthrough as Spain, I have had some legitimacy issues (My King died with no heir, and I got the Valois, which put me at a weak legitimacy, then his heir died, and I ended up with a weak heir, so I've had two rulers now with low legitimacy) So being able to boost my legitimacy up with a bonus has been nice. Also, when it comes fleet upgrading time the sudden infusion of cash I can get becomes very useful.
 

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I'm pretty certain that it still works that way. If the Papacy gets full-annexed, it rocks up in another Catholic province.

OK, so making them a vassal was indeed the best decision.

Btw I love the Stability from PI, it just made me DOW on Spain with Break Truce and together with level 3 advisor stability events I was on 3 again very fast
 

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100 points to break a royal Marriage could be a good option, or is that OP ?
 

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You can break marriages at any time you want. It just costs a stability and some rep. Get diplomacy idea maxed and it won't cost any stability.

Thanks I'm aware of that. So it'd be handy if you didn't want a stab hit or weren't going down diplomacy path and had papal influence right?
 

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but, but, but you can buy a stability increase with 100 influence.

Good point :) I guess I was looking at it from a flavour point of view and not the abstracted view. Sometimes I feel the story is sometimes stripped away from the bare mechanics.
 

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It really doesn't fit as you were not allowed to have a divorce unless authorized by the pope. Even then it had to because of adultery or impotence. Henry the 8th wasn't allowed a divorce so he created the church of England. If anything a catholic nation should have to bribe the papal state with money if it wanted to revoke a marriage.
 

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It really doesn't fit as you were not allowed to have a divorce unless authorized by the pope. Even then it had to because of adultery or impotence. Henry the 8th wasn't allowed a divorce so he created the church of England. If anything a catholic nation should have to bribe the papal state with money if it wanted to revoke a marriage.
You need the Popes permission? If only you could have some influence over him.;P
 

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these mechanics sound confusing, perhaps the EU3 mechanics were better? Or too boring?
 

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royal marriage isnt just the king's wife and the liek tho, royal marrige is mainlyhis kids and siblings and the like, who often have a significanly easier time breaking those marriages. especially if they are soemwhat related(like 5th cousins or something)