HOI 1.04 + SR
September 1942. As Germany, we hold Moscow, part of the Baltics, the entire Ukraine, Stalingrad, Magnitogorsk and up to Novosibirsk., etc.
SU still has evreything esat of Novosibirsk. Also still has Leningrad, Murmansk, Archangelsk, etc.
A big encircling battle is about to happen in central Russia (trapping 90 Soviet divisions).
Then all of a sudden, the News Order East event strikes. We send peace proposals to the Russians. We decline the Vlassov option (I need the iron, the coal and the oil for my greedy self)
We "choose" to annex the Baltics (giving them independence freezes the game so let's call it the hand of fate), we choose to annex the Caucasus, the Ukraine and Byelorossia. Dissent goes up from 4% to 30% (I didn't understand that : it should only have been + 22%)
Nothing else happens.
Then comes the answer : the Russians accept our proposals.
I look at the map : the Baltics are mine, the Caucasus and the Ukraine (more or less) also, but I gain only 1 or 2 provinces for Byelorussia and even Minsk is Soviet again ! All other occupied territories are Russian again. Finland got a bit too. (Romania got its part by a separate event at least a month or two earlier)
It feels like a peace settlement in EU2 : modest gains while abandoning the vast majority of the conquered lands.
First reaction : disappointment because we were close to conclusive victory as we know it in the "Bitter Peace" event. Now, the SU remains a great power and a constant threat.
On the other hand, there is a ring of authenticity about it : a more realistic Germany could have agreed to such terms wich offered a fair geopolitical solution to its territorial needs as a major power. (The Caucasus is a bit far-fetched but then I know the game is not finished yet : there is the oil and there is the forward base towards Persia, the Gulf, the Middle East, and India. There is the facility of directly deploying troops on impossibly difficult terrain)
So, the event gave peace with the SU. We gained a number of provinces and a lot of resources (these provinces are annexed, not occupied) but we took a major dissent hit requiring very large investment in consumer goods and bringing research and building units to a virtual standstill for several months. The SU made the better deal all round.
Gamewise, the "small solution" in the East ensures there will still be a long stony road to go. I actually like it this way. Very well done. I suppose this was Yogi's thing though I'm not sure at all whether the event fired off as intented.
September 1942. As Germany, we hold Moscow, part of the Baltics, the entire Ukraine, Stalingrad, Magnitogorsk and up to Novosibirsk., etc.
SU still has evreything esat of Novosibirsk. Also still has Leningrad, Murmansk, Archangelsk, etc.
A big encircling battle is about to happen in central Russia (trapping 90 Soviet divisions).
Then all of a sudden, the News Order East event strikes. We send peace proposals to the Russians. We decline the Vlassov option (I need the iron, the coal and the oil for my greedy self)
We "choose" to annex the Baltics (giving them independence freezes the game so let's call it the hand of fate), we choose to annex the Caucasus, the Ukraine and Byelorossia. Dissent goes up from 4% to 30% (I didn't understand that : it should only have been + 22%)
Nothing else happens.
Then comes the answer : the Russians accept our proposals.
I look at the map : the Baltics are mine, the Caucasus and the Ukraine (more or less) also, but I gain only 1 or 2 provinces for Byelorussia and even Minsk is Soviet again ! All other occupied territories are Russian again. Finland got a bit too. (Romania got its part by a separate event at least a month or two earlier)
It feels like a peace settlement in EU2 : modest gains while abandoning the vast majority of the conquered lands.
First reaction : disappointment because we were close to conclusive victory as we know it in the "Bitter Peace" event. Now, the SU remains a great power and a constant threat.
On the other hand, there is a ring of authenticity about it : a more realistic Germany could have agreed to such terms wich offered a fair geopolitical solution to its territorial needs as a major power. (The Caucasus is a bit far-fetched but then I know the game is not finished yet : there is the oil and there is the forward base towards Persia, the Gulf, the Middle East, and India. There is the facility of directly deploying troops on impossibly difficult terrain)
So, the event gave peace with the SU. We gained a number of provinces and a lot of resources (these provinces are annexed, not occupied) but we took a major dissent hit requiring very large investment in consumer goods and bringing research and building units to a virtual standstill for several months. The SU made the better deal all round.
Gamewise, the "small solution" in the East ensures there will still be a long stony road to go. I actually like it this way. Very well done. I suppose this was Yogi's thing though I'm not sure at all whether the event fired off as intented.
