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Any progress, Daboo? :p
 

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Sorry for OT, but the flag I imagine for Kosovo is the "ausgleich" flag- one half would be a flag of Serbia/Yugoslavia, and the other would be Albanian. If you don't like it, would someone just do it for me, please? ^^
 

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Well, Greece doesn't get the american-inspired flag until 1970-ish. ;)

It was adopted in 1822 as the naval and merchant flag, was commonly used by the general public alongside or in place of the white-cross-on-blue national flag, and replaced it completely in 1969. The US inspiration idea has arguments for and against, as I understand it.
 

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It was adopted in 1822 as the naval and merchant flag, was commonly used by the general public alongside or in place of the white-cross-on-blue national flag, and replaced it completely in 1969. The US inspiration idea has arguments for and against, as I understand it.

And some still use them both together today. :)
 

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How about adding new Serb tech teams?
 

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The stripes is American originally, but used by other nations, like Greece. It's like suggesting that all nations with tricolour-flags would suggest they're under French occupation.

Actually the East India Company used stripes very similar to those of the much later American flag since the early 17th century. Well before there even was an idea of an independent USA.

EDIT: I concur with Voss about adding tech teams for Serbia (Yugoslavia too?). It would also be wise to add some tech teams for Germany, Finland, the USSR and many other countries as well, similar to those new tech teams found in mods like TRP, C.O.R.E. and the Cold War Tech Tree extension mod. If not for the major countries, then at least for the minors.
 
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What takle add as nation Slavic Union? :rolleyes:

And a Finno-Ugric union (or at least a Finnic union - excluding the Ugrics). ;)

Someone already suggested a Pan-Turanian union on the New Nations mod forums, but that'd be too large of a concept and quite unrealistic. Though then again, so is the EU and AN (Atlantic Union).
 

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Someone already suggested a Pan-Turanian union on the New Nations mod forums, but that'd be too large of a concept and quite unrealistic.
Not quite, it's just that no state actually pursued such a goal, much less a collection of states.
 

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Not quite, it's just that no state actually pursued such a goal, much less a collection of states.

True. Someone replied to the suggestion (can't remember by who) on the NN mod forums with something like that, though. I was mainly repeating him.

I personally don't have anything against the inclusion of such a superstate. However it is very unlikely that it would get liberated due to its immense size. Unless of course, the required provinces for it are far lesser in amount than the greatest extent of a Pan-Turanian union would require. Also, adding all those tech teams and hundreds of leaders and ministers require a lot of work. But if someone is willing to do it...then I wish that someone good luck.
 

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Also, adding all those tech teams and hundreds of leaders and ministers require a lot of work. But if someone is willing to do it...then I wish that someone good luck.
I think that the minister list would be (relatively) limited, actually. Most on the list would be either internationalist types or über-racial nationalist types, so most ministers would be Left-Wing Radicals, Social-Democrats, etc. but also mainly Fascists and similar types and so on, like Alparslan Türkeş. I'd assume a vast majority of ministers would be opposed to a united Turanian government.
 

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Bumping but still. :p

I do hope that the next version has events relating to transforming into different countries. For example, uniting Luxembourg, NL and Belgium into one country as one of those countries in order to create Benelux, the ability to create Austria-Hungary if Austria annexes Hungary or vice-versa, Baltic nations conquering others to create the Baltic Union, etc.
 

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I think that the minister list would be (relatively) limited, actually. Most on the list would be either internationalist types or über-racial nationalist types, so most ministers would be Left-Wing Radicals, Social-Democrats, etc. but also mainly Fascists and similar types and so on, like Alparslan Türkeş. I'd assume a vast majority of ministers would be opposed to a united Turanian government.

True.

This reminds me of the question...why on Earth does the nation "England" have tons of lvl 5 generals? A bit exaggarated, hm? I could name countless German and Finnish generals with more experience and prestige than most of the aforementioned English generals combined. Also, 90% of these lvl 5 generals start with skills ranging from 2 to 4 in 1936.

For example, uniting Luxembourg, NL and Belgium into one country as one of those countries in order to create Benelux, the ability to create Austria-Hungary if Austria annexes Hungary or vice-versa, Baltic nations conquering others to create the Baltic Union, etc.

This is both a good and a bad idea. Maybe a united Low Country state might work, since the area was already at the time generally quite liberal.

In the case of Austria-Hungary...not such a good idea. Why? Well, now that all those people once under Austro-Hungarian rule had not only achieved nationalistic enlightenment, but also gotten independence, they would strongly resist renewed foreign rule. Such was the case IRL when for example Yugoslavia was conquered by the Axis. Though there are always other matters such as cultural autonomy, in-country states (for example the planned United States of Greater Austria) etc. which would relieve partisan activity, that are outside the HoI2 engine.

In the case of the United Baltic Duchy, the same rule of nationalistic partisan activity applies. But since you can liberate these countries anyway, I guess I'll just have to stop talking about nationalistic partisan activity. Anyway... Each Baltic state's event about creating the United Baltic Duchy should have a further event which would keep/move the capitol to the original country's capitol city. So as to avoid the default United Baltic Duchy capitol, which is Riga (you're going to want to avoid that if you're Estonia or Lithuania).

P.S. I was typing this around 4-5am in the morning. Just let me know if my text is somewhat incomprehensible.
 
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Daboo,
A suggestion as this is your mod, of course.
One way to free a tag is to merge Western Canada with Cascadia. The only downside is that if you free Cascadia from entirely within Canada it would have to be by event.
IMO Western Canada is primarily of interest as a Japanese puppet in a divided North America.
 
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A suggestion as this is your mod, of course.
One way to free a tag is to merge Western Canada with Cascadia. The only downside is that if you free Cascadia from entirely within Canada it would have to be by event.
IMO Western Canada is primarily of interest as a Japanese puppet in a divided North America.

Western Canada pretty much needs to conquer Cascadia in the game for IC and tech teams anyway. :p

IMO a left wing radical or leninist Western Canada under Tommy Douglas/Tim Buck would be a lot of fun to play with. "CCF conquers North America." :D
 

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I have a suggestion. Since hoi3 is coming out later this year and im sure there will some kind of new nations mod for it, and since it sounds like theres going to be pretty much unlimited tags, why dont we take suggestions for new possible nations and try to find ministers, leaders, ect for them so that way the info for would already be there when hoi3 comes out. I think this would be better than trying to sqeeze out some countries to make space for 1 or 2 more countries.
 

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IMO a left wing radical or leninist Western Canada under Tommy Douglas/Tim Buck would be a lot of fun to play with. "CCF conquers North America." :D
They'd qualify as Social Democrats. :p
 

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Hey,

Just wanted to say this is a cool mod to mess around with.
One question, however:
I tried a game with France, and as a part of restoring the old french empire, I took Germany and divided it to buffer states.
So I happily looked at the new puppet German kingdoms: Bavaria,Prussia,Saxony,Rhineland, blah blah blah.... what's that? Bremen, Kiel, Hanover and Wilhelmshafen still belong to me... But i want it as a buffer state territory too... :(
I suggest that you either make the Hamburg state bigger to contain these territories, or create a brand new Hanover Kingdom that will own these.

Thank you and continue with the good work.