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Alfonso V said:
France u dont know anything about the confligt. That war was not against OE. We attacked sweden that time for 3naval provinve in the nourth.
It was simple to attack OE without loosing any stab. Sweden started the war with -3 stab at all. If u were seen military movemenst, u would have already know we did not try to take any lands from OE, we were just defending that front.
At all i remember when u asked me to move out from NL but NL was who attacked me!! And i could take all NL but i removed all my forcers from there.
I want peace know! If u cant understand world politicy dont say anything about it, maybe u stay a bit clever then for the first wiew.

Hehe, let me correct you here and there Alfonso, You didnt DOW Sweden, you dowed OE. Right after you dowed you invaded. Then you saw that i had many forces I drove you back. Its my faulth that i immidiatly demanded from sweden to dow, i should have had more confidence in my own defence plan. Then the perioid came of "all quite on the eastern front". Everybody knows this because i made that joke several times. Of course this "quite" wasnst really quite because i was planning and doing my invasion of venice, which worked, then wenn venice almost fell, i had aslo enough forces on the border to go offensive. This plan worked brilliantly. Only one thing went wrong in my warmachine, and that were my lousy Assults, once even with 80k on a minimal fort 200 of you austrains survived, and of course after such an assult my forces were low on morale, and you, very wise , great general you were, :p used that time to counter attack. Well, still the story the forces are still there, waiting for the rebels to join oe rather that to conquer the provences themself, is the story of our war. I wanted to make this some sort of aar, but i think i dont have the time (and health, wow that beer from last night was bad or something)

Grand Vizir aka General Seen Akayula
 

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I have checked the 1567 save game and i have owned ireland since then so i think my request for shields in the irish islands is quite in place and valid :D

other than that i look forward to an entertaining game tonight and may even be able to draw up an AAR :)
 

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as u said seen, i had 1.000.000soldiers when the war started. my plan was to down the weak sweden army with poland, while i use only 300.000man at your frontier. My plan did not work so fast in the nourth because sweden called NL to attack me and that was unfair because NL is AI. So i had to use 250.000soldiers in the nourth to take all NL provs. That was why sweden borders fall so long time. As u said u had a good plan to take venice and a few yers later u had more soldiers then me at our border. When u had broken true i signed peace with defeated NL. Half of my army from NL went to stop u half went to finish sweden. At that time seweden had no province at the contitent. At all if i could bring all my 300.000 soldiers from the nourth to down u at time u cuold not broken true. But because the NL invason i lost so much time and u made a briliant move on venice i run out of time.
:rolleyes:
 
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Well at all:
in the future u dont have to fear me, becouse i wont attack any of u. I'm defensive from now. The borders r clear to AU for the comming years. Thats all. Maybe i will try to buy provs from france but thats maximum.
I think France knows what provs i mean. I wont build just a defensive size army. What i fear from this time is an unholy aggresson from france. I'm just looking the borders and i think france try to attack me or why the hell he moved all his army to my border? Strange...
France be peacefull, nobody will attack u.
 
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Game at 1930cet

Well people, the game will be at IP

145.99.240.34

at 1930cet

We still need sub (s) at least for Flo, i cant find anyone, hope you can.
 

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Alfonso V said:
Well at all:
in the future u dont have to fear me, becouse i wont attack any of u. I'm defensive from now. The borders r clear to AU for the comming years. Thats all. Maybe i will try to buy provs from france but thats maximum.
I think France knows what provs i mean. I wont build just a defensive size army. What i fear from this time is an unholy aggresson from france. I'm just looking the borders and i think france try to attack me or why he moved all his army to my border? Strange...
France be peacefull, nobody will attack u.

I have several reasons to keep armies on the border, one is that you usually keep an even larger army at the very same border, the other is that I might have invaded you during that war (had Spain not been true to her word of staying out as well), the third one is that I have to keep my troops around somewhere, and my borders are only that long.

Regarding the Neatherland, perhaps we should hammer out a deal regarding them, either their future status of neutrality or simply cut them up between us. I shall see their respective provinces value, and then suggest a deal regarding them alfonso, either on the fora or in the game.
 

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Hmmmm, the COT in holland unbalances the values a fair bit. other things of note is the respective manufactories, FAA in holland, Naval in Zeeland, Refinery in friesland, and a weapons manu in geldre. The only colonies that I have on my map are placentina (colonial city). Spain apparently had problems with them in SA, but other than that, their lands are hidden to my knowledge until I sack holland.

So, Alfonso, Emperor of Germany, how do you propose that we deal with the neatherlands?
 

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hmm :rolleyes: a friendship between france and AU this time sounds like chocolate. 50%-50% is ok to me about them.
and i will remove all of my troops from your border if u do the same.
 

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Netherland has only 2 provs in "my" america( a lvl1 colony and a tp).
If you plan to divide netherland, i will take that 2 for me. But we have to wait the decission of our GM
 

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Edits done for this session:

*England: Core shield on: Connaugh, Ulster, Meath, Leinster and Munster.

*Austria: Core shield on: Bayern, Ansbach, Wurzburg, Mainz, Baden, Pfalz, Koln, Kleves, Hessen, Anhalt, Münster and Magdeburg.

*Sweden: Core shield on: Finmark, Trondelag, Narvik, Jamtland, Livland, Kurland.

*France: Core shield on: Isle Royale.

-Everglades, Mosquitos and Milan to Spain.
-Money payed by spain. 200 to Sweden and France. 1500 to Austria.

Zimbabwe, Sofala werent more than 5000 hab. colonies in 1567.
Oldenburg wasnt austrian in that save.
 

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A stable session, but I don't think Spain can possibly lose now...

Bah, stingray, you should be happy, if you had dowed me, oe perhaps wouldnt have lost nothing, but you, well....lets say i would connected spain and italy by land.
 

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koningtiger said:
Bah, stingray, you should be happy, if you had dowed me, oe perhaps wouldnt have lost nothing, but you, well....lets say i would connected spain and italy by land.

Oh, I don't think a DOW from me and OE could have shifted the balance, that's the frightening and hopeless part. If you are strong enough to withstand an attack from our alliance on your own, there's really nothing to do about you except keeping our COT closed to you and attempt to bore you to the degree that you will do something stupid, or just leave the game. You have already survived all of your harsh events, there won't be any forced civil wars to take you down. All you have to do now is hypertech into oblivion and perhaps throw somebody a bone from time to time.
 

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Stingray said:
Oh, I don't think a DOW from me and OE could have shifted the balance, that's the frightening and hopeless part. If you are strong enough to withstand an attack from our alliance on your own, there's really nothing to do about you except keeping our COT closed to you and attempt to bore you to the degree that you will do something stupid, or just leave the game. You have already survived all of your harsh events, there won't be any forced civil wars to take you down. All you have to do now is hypertech into oblivion and perhaps throw somebody a bone from time to time.

I dont understand any of you, what do you want from me? :confused:

That i manage my own country badly? I havent attacked any of you (i.e. france or sweden) while all odds were on my side, because i dont want destroy your countries.

I feel like the USA, hated by all.

There is yet a lot of time for change things.

And after all , you still can fight for the second place (i know Seen would kill me for this). :D
 
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koningtiger said:
I dont understand any of you, what do you want from me? :confused:

That i manage my own country badly? I havent attacked any of you (i.e. france or sweden) while all odds where on my side, because i dont want destroy your countries.

I feel like the USA, hated by all.

There is yet a lot of time for change things.

And after all , you still can fight for the second place (i know Seen would kill me for this). :D

Oh I'm not asking you to play worse, I'm just whining over my own failure ;) So don't take it like that. But really, you ARE like the USA, poking into everyones business, threatening invasions, making lot's and lot's of money ;) Just like the top dog tends to do, to keep in top, and you are doing it rather well IMO.

I still have interest in the game, and I'll be happy to play it until time runs out.I've just got to be allowed to have theese gloomy reports upon the state of the BoP ;)
 

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koningtiger said:
I dont understand any of you, what do you want from me? :confused:

That i manage my own country badly? I havent attacked any of you (i.e. france or sweden) while all odds where on my side, because i dont want destroy your countries.

I feel like the USA, hated by all.

There is yet a lot of time for change things.

And after all , you still can fight for the second place (i know Seen would kill me for this). :D

At all second place has been taken by portugals in the economy race but the 3. is a not just a dream for the Emperor. :rofl:
It's really not a bad time for Austria now.The country is improving well.
 
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koningtiger said:
I dont understand any of you, what do you want from me? :confused:

That i manage my own country badly? I havent attacked any of you (i.e. france or sweden) while all odds were on my side, because i dont want destroy your countries.

I feel like the USA, hated by all.

There is yet a lot of time for change things.

And after all , you still can fight for the second place (i know Seen would kill me for this). :D

Im gonna kill you whatever Koning, not because of some silly lies or words, just because you are in First place and anoying :D
 

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Seen said:
Im gonna kill you whatever Koning, not because of some silly lies or words, just because you are in First place and anoying :D

And how will you kill me, seen, with your tiny cavalry army? :rofl:
Lets see how you siege medium forts with only cavalry armies.
I would love to see how you get troops to my lands with your triremes.
 

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koningtiger said:
And how will you kill me, seen, with your tiny cavalry army? :rofl:
Lets see how you siege medium forts with only cavalry armies.
I would love to see how you get troops to my lands with your triremes.
You know that song from the beatles? "with some help from my friends..." Do YOU have any friends left in this world , o great king of spain ? :rofl: