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[unmerged(20768)]

Hello I would also like to join in and play perhaps Bohemia.

20:00 is fine with me and i have a broadband connection. Currently I am in Norway so that shouldn't be that far away.

 

[sinistral]

I'm not sure I like bohemia since they are able to create "king of bohemia" right from the start. If anyone playing bohemia or any other duke for that matter declare themselfs independent from Germany I sure hope that all the other players are roleplaying and declare war on the traitors. I would also be very sorry if this game turns into a rampage in the baltic states for better titles and independens. Sure we should all try to help the poor pagans for a better christan life but in a moderate way. Perhaps we should have some limit on how fast we should be allowed to expand in pagan land? I hope that a limit is not necessary and would be glad if we all could play without one. It might be just me thats worried and eveything might turn out just fine with wonderful players playing a fun and inspiring game

 

[unmerged(20768)]

I also think it is quite too easy to become a King of Bohemia. Then If it is a problem I can either - not be allowed to be a king, or I can play whatever else. I don't really have that many preferences.

 

[FrEDa]

I'm fine with whatever you guys decide..

/F

 

[unmerged(15623)]

I'm fine with whatever you guys decide..

/F

Do you mean the game rules or the nation you are going to play?

If the latter, I decide that you will start playing the weakest count neghboring my county.

 

[Peder P]

I'd like to play Saxony if possible.

 

[FrEDa]

Do you mean the game rules or the nation you are going to play?

If the latter, I decide that you will start playing the weakest count neghboring my county.

That's fine as well

/F

 

[unmerged(20768)]

Well I was thinking You want it balanced ... :rofl:
Since I do not know what duchies can become kingdoms fast and so I meant I could play a dynasty You would feel is equal to others.

 

[unmerged(15688)]

Really

Cant see much of a problem with someone going Bohemia...
I bag Brandenburg ( im a masochist)
Think we should have a rule if peace is made with a heathern country you may not declare war again for 5 years... I know the game allows it and penalises it but this will curtail a massive free for all against the heathens unless you just want provinces and no cash.
Another rule perhaps Bohemia may not declare the kingdom of bohemia before 1150?
See you all 5 to 8 tonight...
My ICQ is on my profile should V-net not be up otherwise we meet on vnet..
Game speed initially will be very slow so people can organise their courts, first mariadge etc, please try and avoid pausing if at all possible
game speed will then rise to normal and perhaps to fast depending on lags and what were all doing.
lets all have fun.
If anyone has a super dupper dsl connection could they please host instead.. just pick up autosave from this forum or email me and ill send it to you.
Lets try and get the show on the road on time...
Should ( no WHEN) the game crashes (for anyone) we will save and restart as of the next autosave ( set to every three months) ( unless someone has a better idea) or of course when the host crashes.
Please yell on ICQ if you crash or in the game if you notice someone is AWOL.
cant think of anything else..

 

[unmerged(15688)]

Due to bugs

New Rule: Players may not make more than 1 marriage proposal at a time, cause apparently its possible to marry more than 1 wife... if you do so, and si9nce were all good christians

 

[Peder P]

How about a maximum number of pagan provinces annexed per year? 2 per 5 years would be fine I think.

 

[unmerged(15688)]

Good Idea..

Ok no more than 2 pagan provinces in 5 years allowed.
of course most of these rules are self enforicng, keep pen and paper handy
5 years to start from first annexation ie if you annex one province on Oct 1 1068 you can only annex one more till oct 1 1073.

 

[FrEDa]

Well, I suspect autosave without pausing is the cause of alot of save-game CTD's, so I would suggest the host pausing and saving (like autosave) every once in a while..

/F

 

[unmerged(15688)]

New Provinces Troops

Troops from Captured Provinces ( Christian or Pagan) may not be raised for one year after capture. ( unless people object?)

 

[unmerged(15688)]

dunno

Well, I suspect autosave without pausing is the cause of alot of save-game CTD's, so I would suggest the host pausing and saving (like autosave) every once in a while..

/F

playing solo with the autosave program running ( renames and movesw autosave file) Ive never had a crash as solo player when reloading the last save after crash. Prefer to try the automated version first.. if we strike problems well try it the other way. Think the problem with the autosave routine is that the file isnt flushed ( ie part is still in memory) renaming and moving under xp seems to solve that problem.

 

[unmerged(15688)]

just to stop all you meglomaniacs

should a player loose all his counties ( possible no doubt) and have no vassals he may return after the next autosave as any unplayed duchy in the HRE, provided the duke is NOT in the line of succession of a player. Should this not be possible then may choose from (In order) France, Scandinavia, British Isles. No doubt the new Duke will have revenge on his mind :wacko:

 

[unmerged(15623)]

I was thinking a bit more strict rules regarding heathens. Conquering them is almost an explot in the game as it stands IMHO.

My rules would be:

1) Only one DoW on any heathen by a single ruler (by ingame ruler that is, player can DoW again once the next one in line inherits). Ever.

2) No attacking heathens until Pope calls for the brave to take the cross.

3) And, possibly, attacks should always be joint ventures among at least two players.

 

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dunno

think the rules against heathens are strict enough.. theres enough of em in anycase, after all spain is likely to fall to moslems as is byzantine long befiore were strong enough to influence events.. but im happy to go with the majority..., discussion in V-net 7.45?

 

[sinistral]

I would first like to thank krispin and also the rest of you for the creating of a few more nice rules. Most of those rules are now listed as rules in my first message so you all could get a overview on them. I'll soon go to work for a few hours but I'll try to look in here during the day to update the rules if you come up with another rule or want the rules changed.
I think we should set the deadline for new rules to 17:00, that way everybody should be able to get the rules clear to them and if we after the first playtime notice that we need to change or add a few rules that could be done after the first round. Most of the rules are self enforicng as krispin said above so follow his advice and keep pen and paper handy.
I also agree on krispins last post about who you should play if the game over hits you in the face so I'll add that to the rules asap.

I look forward to a great game tonight, good work everybody.

I would be glad if everyone could join the v-net 19:45 to get the final discussion on rules, if we need to and everyone is there we could change the rules even if its after deadline.

 

[unmerged(15688)]

Its most unlikely

well get through more than 50 years or so tonight.
so all rules will be open to further discussion and refining.
during the next week... agree with the 17:00 deadline .. let give sinistral the power to decide what further suggestions are accepted tonight pending 19:45 discussion and well refine over the week.