Okay. The problem with Moscow bordering Novgorod is easily resolved by adding a Velikie Luki province to represent south Novgorodian lands (that 'hand' between Pskov and Tver). Novgorod owned Velikie Luki in 1419, so it would be it's border with Lithuania. That province would also contain Torzhok, which was given to Moscow together with it when they had Novgorod on the run, can't tell in which year precisely however. If Moscow province includes Rzhev, it borders this Luki province, and Tver wouldn't border Lithuania. I'd also like to move Novgorod province more into hinterland. Don't want Lithuania to siege it too often.
Yaroslavl province... won't we have to include that princedom then? But yes, it was the most important place in the region, so let's have it. IMO if we had Rostov we'd have too small provinces for no real reason. In a game about 10th-14th centuries, I'd definitely include both Rostov and Yaroslavl, but for our timeframe, we don't really need it.
I'd prefer if Tula-Serpukhov also included Kolomna. Don't really want to have Kolomna province in 18th century. If Kolomna is a part of Moscow province, it will get too long for me to like it aesthetically.
Ryazan would stretch south alongside that Tula-Kolomna province all the way to Yelets, and border the Steppe in the east.
Which province would include Murom? Zales'ye or Nizhniy Novgorod? I'd prefer Nizhniy Novgorod, so that Tatars can invade Muscovy only via Nizhniy or Ryazan.
I agree with having Perm undiscovered from start on, and it's definitely correct to have Muscovy start exploring the east in 15th century already.
Ingermanland could have Narva as capital at least until 1703. That is, unless the Baltic guys really want to include a Narva mini province for the Livonian Order. Ivangorod or Nyen could be the alternatives.
So summa summarum we'd have 7 provinces for Novgorod (Novgorod, Luki, Ingermanland, Kexholm, Karelia*, Lukomorie*, Obskaya Guba*), and 7 for Moscow (Moscow, Tula, Zales'e, Jaroslavl, Nizhny, Vologda, Viatka*), plus a province for each of the 3 minors. That means 17 provinces for starting Russia. Nice, if you ask me. NVG will have CB shields on Vologda and Viatka. Novgorod's provinces should be rather poor, on contrary to Moscow's.
*-colonies or TPs.
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Don't think Perm should be poor early on. It's silver mines had greatest impact on Ivan IV. 's coffers already.
Yaroslavl province... won't we have to include that princedom then? But yes, it was the most important place in the region, so let's have it. IMO if we had Rostov we'd have too small provinces for no real reason. In a game about 10th-14th centuries, I'd definitely include both Rostov and Yaroslavl, but for our timeframe, we don't really need it.
I'd prefer if Tula-Serpukhov also included Kolomna. Don't really want to have Kolomna province in 18th century. If Kolomna is a part of Moscow province, it will get too long for me to like it aesthetically.
Ryazan would stretch south alongside that Tula-Kolomna province all the way to Yelets, and border the Steppe in the east.
Which province would include Murom? Zales'ye or Nizhniy Novgorod? I'd prefer Nizhniy Novgorod, so that Tatars can invade Muscovy only via Nizhniy or Ryazan.
I agree with having Perm undiscovered from start on, and it's definitely correct to have Muscovy start exploring the east in 15th century already.
Ingermanland could have Narva as capital at least until 1703. That is, unless the Baltic guys really want to include a Narva mini province for the Livonian Order. Ivangorod or Nyen could be the alternatives.
So summa summarum we'd have 7 provinces for Novgorod (Novgorod, Luki, Ingermanland, Kexholm, Karelia*, Lukomorie*, Obskaya Guba*), and 7 for Moscow (Moscow, Tula, Zales'e, Jaroslavl, Nizhny, Vologda, Viatka*), plus a province for each of the 3 minors. That means 17 provinces for starting Russia. Nice, if you ask me. NVG will have CB shields on Vologda and Viatka. Novgorod's provinces should be rather poor, on contrary to Moscow's.
*-colonies or TPs.
Then there are no problems for including our over-large provinces.WiSK said:There is also a size multiplier in province.csv which can be used to delay movement of troops.
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Don't think Perm should be poor early on. It's silver mines had greatest impact on Ivan IV. 's coffers already.