That thread is rather long, and some posters could have problems with finding actual map proposition. The Master - could you edit yours first post, so anybody could easily find actual maps?
Historical map of Commonwealth
Latest MKJ map proposition
http://www.thehiddenlounge.com/europe.png
Problem with P-L map is Commonwealth was home of many nations: Armenians, Byelarussians, Germans, Jews, Lativians, Lithuanians, Poles, Russians, Tatars, Ukrainians and more. And each nation believe new map should represent their vision of history of P-L, and so provinces have to represent their culture, province names, borders and so on. We already have here some nasty problems with some crazied posters.
nalivayko - IMO we should talk mainly about latest MKJ map. It's not best, historical, accurate, it's a compromise. Hard to reach compromise. As you see, Ukraine is unfinished yet. Also eastern parts of Ukraine was under Golden Orde rule, then Russian, so it's disscused in new map: Russia thread. So someone will have to coordinate Ukraine map development in both threads. As I know most P-L thread posters are reading Russian thread, and I hope some Russian posters are reading those thread also
Historical map of Commonwealth
Latest MKJ map proposition
http://www.thehiddenlounge.com/europe.png
Problem with P-L map is Commonwealth was home of many nations: Armenians, Byelarussians, Germans, Jews, Lativians, Lithuanians, Poles, Russians, Tatars, Ukrainians and more. And each nation believe new map should represent their vision of history of P-L, and so provinces have to represent their culture, province names, borders and so on. We already have here some nasty problems with some crazied posters.
nalivayko - IMO we should talk mainly about latest MKJ map. It's not best, historical, accurate, it's a compromise. Hard to reach compromise. As you see, Ukraine is unfinished yet. Also eastern parts of Ukraine was under Golden Orde rule, then Russian, so it's disscused in new map: Russia thread. So someone will have to coordinate Ukraine map development in both threads. As I know most P-L thread posters are reading Russian thread, and I hope some Russian posters are reading those thread also