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Of course new ways for OE to go center of Africa, it really boosted OE colonization.
Madeira is new island as Spanish domain. Madeira was founded by Portugal early 14xx and they fastly run their wine plant. I believe in 1492 it is still Portugal very profitable domain
****** did spanish and portugese cultures
 

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well, if Venice grab Tripoli vassal, she can go deeper :rofl:
Portugal got berber culture, which is mostly at north africa instead of arabian. Very good, they finally can convert muslims
by the way in the mod it can be written that north africa is european region, so MP is given there without Tangier strate.
 

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Parana river looks impressive :rolleyes:
ah, 1 more province for Porto, but without port (can be editted though too)
Sweden seemed smaller, but i counted 14 instead of 12 provinces.
Baleares and Canary islands can be splitted btw
new Venice islands at Ionia
Magagaskar is whole for colonization
plenty of small islands at Indian and Pacific Ocean
didn`t check ToT
 

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Parana river looks impressive :rolleyes:
ah, 1 more province for Porto, but without port (can be editted though too)
Sweden seemed smaller, but i counted 14 instead of 12 provinces.
Baleares and Canary islands can be splitted btw
new Venice islands at Ionia
Magagaskar is whole for colonization
plenty of small islands at Indian and Pacific Ocean
didn`t check ToT

I think Ryo has the tendence to put ToT off in his scenarios (at least in his old 1492 one it is off by default)
 

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Cheech,

Exactly.

What I want is a map large enough that A. Unified Italy is a serious power and even ununified a Naples or Venice is a mid major and B. There are four human countries in Germany-Saxony (less vital), Brandenburg, Bavaria and Austria. Each of which is fairly strong in its own region, and of which Austro-Hungary is still capable of fighting France.

I'd also like a Europe-only map for EU II with the following human countries:

England
Scotland
France
Aragon
Castile
Venice
Papal States
Naples
Austria
Bavaria
Saxony
Brandenburg
Holland
Poland
Denmark
The Ottoman Empire

Or an alternative setup focusing on Russia.

However, as I said, I'm up for participating in the scenario-creation and game for a Eurocentric test run (as the OE, preferably) and in GMing an Asian game. I've only loaded up MyMap, but I'll check out Kasperus' as well.
 
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As said, I played a small, short mp session, just to check if it actually works. Well it works.

Some more info:
Sweden and Russia have a very safe border now. Sweden only needs to guard one province heavily.
On the other hand, Denmark has now more provinces and is probably better suited to keep SWeden controlled.
Navarra owns a province in France, so I guess the first thing France will do is dow them and try to vassalise Navarra. However, this will lead to a conflict with Spain, since if France would DA Navarra, she's only one province away from Madrid...

There are plenty rivers there, more than in vanilla and they offer good strategical options.

Exploring the seazones seem to go with the same speed as in vanilla. But perhaps I remember wrong.

Tonio, I tested it with the 1492 scenario and got the low odds in carribean there. You didn't saw those?
 

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FAL said:
Tonio, I tested it with the 1492 scenario and got the low odds in carribean there. You didn't saw those?

after "columbus" as Austria at Ryi1492 scen i had about 40% chance of colonization of Caribbean islands

Madeira should be edited to Portugal, both at historical and MP purpose
 

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With France, the odds are 1% for most of the small isles. Odds in Australia and Africa are normal.

I smell a bug coming... what exactly affects colonization chance? One of those factors has to give a wrong value (as I don't think 1 percent chance is the meant value ;) )
 
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Anyway,

I propose that everyone interested in playing with a new map installs this mod and tried to list all things that seem to be unbalanced or not good for multiplayer.

With some work, we could make this mod tested and playable in a few weeks.

How about everyone choosing a country and play some 100 years with it in SP and list all things concerned for that country?

I am going to do this for Spain anyway.
 
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Sounds good. The AGCEEP high council map seems to have smooth borders, which looks wonderful.
I just hope it won't go Asia-crazy again ;)

Well, we could keep an eye on that map too.
The material that is being discussed right now has a reduced number of provinces in Indonesia at least.
 

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FAL,

I'll pick up the OE.

What are your thoughts on an Asian game, incidentally?