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Kaiser Franz said:
here are some Bavarian generals...

Leonhard Freiherr von Hohenhausen 1788-1872
Heinrich von der Mark 1782-1865
Georg Wilhelm von Le Suire 1787-1852
Ludwig von Lüder 1795-1865
Georg Wilhelm von Manz 1804-1867
Hugo Ritter von Bosch 1782-1865
Bernhard von Hess 1792-1869
Eduard von Lutz 1810-1893
Eduard Freiherr von Rotberg 1799-1894
Sigmund Freiherr von Pranckh 1821-188
Wilhelm Freiherr von Jeetze 1785-1852
Philipp Freiherr von Brand zu Neidstein 1796-1870
Hermann von Schintling 1816-1870

those are a few i could fine on..many were eiether Kriegsminister of qaurtermaster General...i'll try and find more on them..but those Bavarians will start you out

Know what's funny? I think I know the source you used :) Anyway, it is a good start and thanks for your help! I hope to have about 30 generals for Bavaria and a bunch for Saxony and Hannover (the other minor German players in Victoria).
 

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Graphics Method.

Semper Victor. I was wondering what your 'style' is for creating these graphics? As in, what steps do you take to colourize the pictures to get your results? I did a few graphics, years ago, but they took me a substantially long time to create. Could you lay out the steps so others (like myself) can suppliment your work (so as to increase the output of leader graphics)?

For example, I have taken the Austrian General Roth picture and did some touchups to make it akin to the latest designs.

Original.

roth.png


Modified (first attempt, still more work to do, as he appears too dark and orange)

 
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McNaughton said:
Sorry, my service provider does not allow me to post other than a link.
http://us.f13.yahoofs.com/bc/43f384d0mc75e0fed/bc/Modding/aus_gen_roth.bmp?BCi8ZDGBfLkbcxtu

I'd like to peek over Semper Victor's shoulder, too. Whenever I tried, it looked still like a photography and not like graphic style...

BTW, McNaughton, your link seems to be broken. You might want to try imageshack.us, where you can upload images for free and post a link to that file afterwards.
 

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ZykloNuk said:
I'd like to peek over Semper Victor's shoulder, too. Whenever I tried, it looked still like a photography and not like graphic style...

BTW, McNaughton, your link seems to be broken. You might want to try imageshack.us, where you can upload images for free and post a link to that file afterwards.

Thanks, file uploaded properly!
 

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The second picture actually looks quite nice, I'd say. If you consider that man staying with his troops in the field, a bit sun-browned skin fits (sounds better than orange, doesn't it?). Or did I miss your point?
 

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Russia (VII)

Hi to everybody! It's been quite long since I posted last time, but I've been busy remaking the Russian leaderpics. Thank God, I've finally finished them. I suggest you go check them in the original posts in the second page of this thread, because I think that the improvement has been quite remarkable :) .

And I wanted to apologize because with those leaders I made a mistake ( :eek:o ) with the russian general Muraviev-Karsky. When I first looked for information and pics of this chap, it was quite confusing, because I found that there had been several statemen and generals in XIX century Russia called Muraviev (alternative English spelling: Muravyov) . I couldn't find anybody called Muraviev-Karsky, so i assumed it was a mistaken name and instead found another chap called Muraviev-Amursky who was active roughly around the same age, between the reigns of Nicholas I and Alexander II, so I put his picture and name instead of the original Muraviev-karsky and forgot about it.
But with this revision I realized I had made a mistake, because I found information about general Muraviev-Karsky, and realized he was indeed a real character, and not a mistaken name. So, here you have the two guys with a little biographic information about them:

Nikolay Nikolayevich Muraviev-Karsky (1794-1866) + Leaderfile done
muraviev_karsky.png

You can find a detailed biography about him in this link

Nikolay Nikolayevich Muraviev-Amursky (1809-81)
muravyov_amurski.png

You can find a detailed biography about him in this link

I'll start now working on some new Russian leaders, and in doing the ones that I've still not made from the vanilla game files (Khrapovitsky, Paskevich, Geiden and Kuropatkin)

Take care! ;)
 
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Russia (VIII)

Ok, so here you have the remaining vanilla Russian leaders:

Admiral Login Petrovich Geiden (1777-1850) + Leaderfile done
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(This chap was born a Dutchman, and his birth name was Lodewijk Sigismund Gustaaf, count Van Heiden and lord of Reinestein)

Ivan Fyodorovich Paskevich, count of Erivan (1782-1856) + Leaderfile done
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Matvey Evgrafovich Khrapovitsky (1784-1847) + Leaderfile done
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Alexei Nikolayevich Kuropatkin (1848-1925) + Leaderfile done
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Now i can really start working on new stuff for Russia :)
 
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McNaughton said:
Graphics Method.

Semper Victor. I was wondering what your 'style' is for creating these graphics? As in, what steps do you take to colourize the pictures to get your results? I did a few graphics, years ago, but they took me a substantially long time to create. Could you lay out the steps so others (like myself) can suppliment your work (so as to increase the output of leader graphics)?


For example, I have taken the Austrian General Roth picture and did some touchups to make it akin to the latest designs.

Original.

roth.png


Modified (first attempt, still more work to do, as he appears too dark and orange)



Excuse me if I've not been too quick in my answer, but that was a question that required a detailed response, and I needed to find the appopiate moment to write it. You're not the first one to ask that: in this post I tried to answer a similar question by Kaiser Franz, stating which were my principal guidelines or my overall method when making a leaderpic. But I suppose thet what you want to know is the proper mechanics of the process, don't you?

As I said in that post, I work with Photoshop (a pretty outdated version of it, but it suits my needs, so it's ok for me). Let's suppose we have a good quality image, and we know which part of it is going to appear in our final leaderpic.

First of all I trim the image to get a square image framing the personage's head and part of his shoulders. I always work with the image in the original size, because once shrunk to the game size, I find it just impossible to do anything with so small an image; whenever you enlarge it to work with it, you can only see a mess of pixels :wacko: .

Second step: if the image is not in black & white, I change it to this mode (When I first started to do these pics, I still tried whenever possible to profit from good quality colored images to make the final pic. This is what I did with Roth's pic, and that is why it looks so dark and different from the other ones, but in other cases the result was better, like with the brits Evelyn Wood and Wolseley), and then apply the auto-contrast tool to the whole image. This is also an important concept to achieve a good-looking final result: images have to be well contrasted (as I explained in my reply to Kaiser Franz). To finish this step, turn the image to RGB mode to do the colouring.

Third step: now we have a square B&W image, well contrasted and in big size (enough to work with it in any case) in RGB mode. We can start to colour it. i work with the "mask" tool (don't know if you're familiar with photoshop), encircling the areas wich are going to have applied a same colour onto them (for example, red cuffings and medals). This way, i don't have to worry about colouring outlimits. I colour using the "brush" tool, with opacity 20% and in mode "soft light" or "overlay", so I can control precisely the desired degree of colouring I wish to achieve.
After colouring, and sometimes intermingled with it, I correct lights and shadows (the auto-contrast tool is rarely enough to achieve a satisfactory result) using the black, white and degrees of grey among them to graduate transitions and intensities of light and shadow.
By far, the hardest part in this process is the face, which regrettably is also the most important one. I have to proceed very carefully here, almost like a painter would do and shrinking the image with the mousewheel constantly to control what will the final result look like in its proper size.

Fourth step: now we have a (hopefully :rolleyes: ) nicely-looking, coloured square-framed image in RGB mode. Now I'd proceed to paint (with the brush tool in normal mode and opacity 100%) the images silouette in a light grey colour. after that, i would roughly "trap" the image with its grey contour with a mask, and then i'd open a prepared archive wich is a plain green (RGB 0,255,0) square, 40pix width x 43 pix height and resolution 72 pix/inch.
I look the to the original image size, and enlarge the green square to match its dimensions. Then, I just drag our selection from the original image to the green square an drop it, moving it around to get it well-fitted with the "move" tool. Now we can save and close the original image and forget about it.

Fifth step: shrink the pic to the game size (as stated above). Now is when I can see if the final result is decent-looking enough. Let's suppose it is so. Now, some interlacing will have happened between the geen background and the grey contour of the pic. With the "pencil" tool, in minimal size, normal mode and opacity 100%, I proceed now to do the final touches in green (RGB 0,255,0) and light grey, and now I just have to save the image in BMP and PNG mode (to post it in the forums).

This process, with a good enough base image, takes me about 30-45 minutes.

I hope this will be of some help to you, but please bear in mind that english is not my native language and that my typing abilities are just pathetic :eek:o .

PD: Don't hesitate to ask me to clarify any further points! :)
 
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Excuse me if I've not been too quick in my answer, but that was a question that required a detailed response, and I needed to find the appopiate moment to write it. You're not the first one to ask that: in this post I tried to answer a similar question by Kaiser Franz, stating which were my principal guidelines or my overall method when making a leaderpic. But I suppose thet what you want to know is the proper mechanics of the process, don't you?

As I said in that post, I work with Photoshop (a pretty outdated version of it, but it suits my needs, so it's ok for me). Let's suppose we have a good quality image, and we know which part of it is going to appear in our final leaderpic.

First of all I trim the image to get a square image framing the personage's head and part of his shoulders. I always work with the image in the original size, because once shrunk to the game size, I find it just impossible to do anything with so small an image; whenever you enlarge it to work with it, you can only see a mess of pixels :wacko: .

Second step: if the image is not in black & white, I change it to this mode (When I first started to do these pics, I still tried whenever possible to profit from good quality colored images to make the final pic. This is what I did with Roth's pic, and that is why it looks so dark and different from the other ones, but in other cases the result was better, like with the brits Evelyn Wood and Wolseley), and then apply the auto-contrast tool to the whole image. This is also an important concept to achieve a good-looking final result: images have to be well contrasted (as I explained in my reply to Kaiser Franz). To finish this step, turn the image to RGB mode to do the colouring.

Third step: now we have a square B&W image, well contrasted and in big size (enough to work with it in any case) in RGB mode. We can start to colour it. i work with the "mask" tool (don't know if you're familiar with photoshop), encircling the areas wich are going to have applied a same colour onto them (for example, red cuffings and medals). This way, i don't have to worry about colouring outlimits. I colour using the "brush" tool, with opacity 20% and in mode "soft light" or "overlay", so I can control precisely the desired degree of colouring I wish to achieve.
After colouring, and sometimes intermingled with it, I correct lights and shadows (the auto-contrast tool is rarely enough to achieve a satisfactory result) using the black, white and degrees of grey among them to graduate transitions and intensities of light and shadow.
By far, the hardest part in this process is the face, which regrettably is also the most important one. I have to proceed very carefully here, almost like a painter would do and shrinking the image with the mousewheel constantly to control what will the final result look like in its proper size.

Fourth step: now we have a (hopefully :rolleyes: ) nicely-looking, coloured square-framed image in RGB mode. Now I'd proceed to paint (with the brush tool in normal mode and opacity 100%) the images silouette in a light grey colour. after that, i would roughly "trap" the image with its grey contour with a mask, and then i'd open a prepared archive wich is a plain green (RGB 0,255,0) square, 40pix width x 43 pix height and resolution 72 pix/inch.
I look the to the original image size, and enlarge the green square to match its dimensions. Then, I just drag our selection from the original image to the green square an drop it, moving it around to get it well-fitted with the "move" tool. Now we can save and close the original image and forget about it.

Fifth step: shrink the pic to the game size (as stated above). Now is when I can see if the final result is decent-looking enough. Let's suppose it is so. Now, some interlacing will have happened between the geen background and the grey contour of the pic. With the "pencil" tool, in minimal size, normal mode and opacity 100%, I proceed now to do the final touches in green (RGB 0,255,0) and light grey, and now I just have to save the image in BMP and PNG mode (to post it in the forums).

This process, with a good enough base image, takes me about 30-45 minutes.

I hope this will be of some help to you, but please bear in mind that english is not my native language and that my typing abilities are just pathetic :eek:o .

PD: Don't hesitate to ask me to clarify any further points! :)

What an amazing job you did here :eek: I'd like to share my part in the restyling of Ottoman leaders.
 

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Russia (IX)

Ok, I'm back on this thread; these last weeks I've been busy working on new Russian leaders. My initial purpose was to wait to have them all finished before posting them here, but since it's been quite a while since my last posting, I've decided to post some stuff in advance. All of them are guys not present in vanilla game files, and I'll be posting them as always, in chronological order:


Prince Pyotr Mihailovich Volkonsky (1778-1852)
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(Service 1812-46, Background: elderly, Personality: intelligent)

Count Pavel Kristoforovich Grabbe (1787-1875)
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(Service 1838-66, Background: school_of_firepower, Personality: keen)

Vasily Iosifovich Bebutov (1791-1858)
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(Service 1825-57, Background: generals_aide, Personality: stout)

Count Fedor Fedorovich von Berg (1793-1874) (Ger: Friedrich Wilhelm Rembert von Berg )
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(Service 1828-66, Background: cartographer, Personality: sharp)

Admiral Baron Ferdinand Petrovich Wrangel (1796-1870)
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(Service 1836-64, Background: cartographer, Personality: active)

Prince Moisey Zakharovich Argutinsky-Dolgorukov (1797-1855)
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(Service 1844-54, Background: school_of_offense, Personality: keen)

Ivan Fedorovich Blaramberg (1800-1878)
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(Service 1852-69, Background: cartographer, Personality: openminded)

Karl Alexandrovich Belgard (1807-68)
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(Service 1848-68, Background: drillmaster, Personality: able)

Yakov Petrovich Baklanov (1809-1873)
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(Service 1852-67, Background: expert_raider, Personality: merciless)

Count Dimitry Alexeyevich Milyutin (1816-1912)
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(Service 1856-81, Background: gifted_administrator, Personality: openminded)


Well, these ones were just the first ten. I hope to be able to post the rest of them next week. take care!
 
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if you have leaderfiles for them, yes.
 

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Here is a very nice pic of John Pershing, and it's in colour!

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It is taken before or around 1919!

And here is a picture taken by a Russian photographer, digitally restored later from 1911!

bukharasf5.jpg

Alim Khan, Emir of Bukhara

Defeated by Russia in 1866, the Central-Asian emirate of Bukhara had become a Russian protectorate. During the Great War, in April 1917, the emir pronounced the independence of Bukhara. He joined Germany and fought against the Russian troops merely to gain freedom. In 1920, after a prolonged battle with Bolshevik forces, the emir was driven into Afghanistan. After the breakup of the Soviet Union, the area became part of Uzbekistan.

Alim Khan - Wiki

This is the website I found them on.

Here are also some colour pics. No Generals though.
 
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I've been following this thread with great interest, is there any form of ETA for an early release of at least some of these leaderfiles and pics, put together for public enjoyment?
 

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Russia (X)

Ok, back here and bringing the next bunch of russian generals:

Admiral Nikolay Andreyevich Arkas (1816-1881)
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(Service 1865-81, Background: rising_star, Personality: intelligent)

Gerasim Alexeyevich Kolpakovsky (1819-1896)
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(Service 1862-89, Background: exranker, Personality: soldierly)

Ivan Davidovich Lazarev (1820-1879)
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(Service 1860-79, Background: exranker, Personality: clever)

Fedor Fedorovich Radetsky (1820-90)
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(Service 1870-89, Background: natural_born_leader, Personality: resolute)

Piotr Semyonovich Vannovsky (1822-1904)
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(Service 1868-96, Background: armchair_general, Personality: indifferent)

Grand Duke Nikolay Nikolayevich Romanov the Elder (1831-97)
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(Service 1856-81, Background: womanizer, Personality: lackluster)
(This chap was Tsar Alexander II's brother, and the father of Grand Duke Nikolay Nikolayevich the Younger, who was the leader of Russian armies during 1914-15)

Viktor Fedorovich Vinberg (1832-1917)
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(Service 1878-1911, Background: cavalry_school, Personality: arrogant)

Andrey Ivanovich Kosych (1833-1917)
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(Service 1875-1905, Background: old_school, Personality: doughty)

Mikhail Ivanovich Batyanov (1835-1916)
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(Service 1881-1911, Background: pawn, Personality: pusillanimous)

Prince Alexander Konstantinovich Imeretinsky (1837-1900)
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(Service 1869-95, Background: war_college, Personality: polite)
 
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Semper Victor said:
... was a question that required a detailed response, and I needed to find the appopiate moment to write it. ...
First of all I trim the image to get ... [snip]

@ Semper Victor: Just read your working progress description right now. Thanks a lot for taking time explaining your method in such detail!! Two thumbs up!
 

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ZykloNuk said:
@ Semper Victor: Just read your working progress description right now. Thanks a lot for taking time explaining your method in such detail!! Two thumbs up!

You're welcome! If you have more questions, please don't hesitate to ask :)
 

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Here is a very nice pic of John Pershing, and it's in colour!

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It is taken before or around 1919!

And here is a picture taken by a Russian photographer, digitally restored later from 1911!

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Alim Khan, Emir of Bukhara

Defeated by Russia in 1866, the Central-Asian emirate of Bukhara had become a Russian protectorate. During the Great War, in April 1917, the emir pronounced the independence of Bukhara. He joined Germany and fought against the Russian troops merely to gain freedom. In 1920, after a prolonged battle with Bolshevik forces, the emir was driven into Afghanistan. After the breakup of the Soviet Union, the area became part of Uzbekistan.

Alim Khan - Wiki

This is the website I found them on.

Here are also some colour pics. No Generals though.
The second picture looks like it was taken in color,and not a colored black and white photo,although I am sure it is a colored black and white.Really great!
 

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The Great Duck said:
The second picture looks like it was taken in color,and not a colored black and white photo,although I am sure it is a colored black and white.Really great!
The interesting technology of four different kinds of negatives was used here IIRC, so it was not a great problem to restore it in color these days.
 

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Russia (XI)

Some more Russian folks. According to the (in my opinion) excellent criterium displayed by fellow forum member McNaughton in posts 187 & 202 of this thread, I've decided to post also some information about leaders that died in battle, went into exile/retirement due to the 1917 Revolution or joined the White/Red Armies, so their service periods can be lengthened if McNaughton finds it convenient to do so.


Count Ilarion Ivanovich Vorontsov-Dashkov (1837-1916)
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(Service 1875-15, Background: armchair_general, Personality: diplomatic)

Aleksey Gerasimovich Zherebrekov (1837-1922)
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(Service 1886-1906, Background: cavalry_school, Personality: chivalrous)

Admiral Pavel Petrovich Tyrtov (1838-1903)
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(Service 1886-1903, Background: bureaucrat_speed, Personality: indifferent)

Nikolay Petrovich Linevich (1838-1908)
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(Service 1886-1906, Background: pawn, Personality: soft)

Oskar-Ferdinand Kazimirovich Grippenberg (1838-1915)
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(Service 1878-1905, Background: unqualified, Personality: aggressive)

Baron Feofil Yegorovich Meyendorf (1838-1919)
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(Service 1877-1906, Background: cavalry_school, Personality: dauntless)

Viktor Vilgemovich von Wahl (1840-1915) (German: Karl Conrad Wilhelm von Wahl)
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(Service 1873-1906, Background: powerful_fiends, Personality: bigoted)

Baron Anton Yegorovich von Salza (1843-1916)
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(Service 1895-1914, Background: old_school, Personality: mediocre)
(Sacked from his army command after losing the battle of Komarów against the Austrians leaded by general Auffenberg in Galicia in 1914; anyway he was really old then and died two years later)

Admiral Vilgem Karlovich Vitgeft (1844-1904) (German: Wilhelm von Withöft)
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(Service 1899-1904, Background: artillerist, Personality: chickenhearted)
(After admiral Makarov's death, he commanded Port Arthur fleet during the Russo-japanese war of 1904-05, he died when his flagship battleship "Tsesarevich" was hit by Japanese shells and sank during the battle of Yellow Sea in 1904)

Alexander Vassilievich von Kaulbars (1844-1925)
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(Service 1875-1915, Background: cartographer, Personality: smart)
(Retired from active service in 1915 and went into exile after 1917, not taking part in the Russian Civil War)
 
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