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Hmmm alot of stuff to answer...

Venice doesnt have many cores. In Comparison to that Byzanz as competitor has loads of them. Little bit unbalanced, think.
What about giving Venice cores on all italian cultured provinces?
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391-404

= Venice has extremely strong start and due to it i can only offer cores on Genoese and Papal capital but thats it.

Does a Colonial Wars also bar naval conflicts in European waters, or just land battles?

= That depends on the players really, to avoid naval conflicts you can easily just keep your fleets at ports, normally naval conflicts arent affected by Colonial War rules though.

Thank you very much, CoGM. I didn't find mismatches and messages.
I start with 7 cities and stab 0, Suzdal belongs to Muscowy.
I find Sweden in 2 MA: DEN-NOR-SWE and SWE-FIN, it needs a correction.

=Finland was SUPPOSED to be in Kalmar Union with Sweden-Norway-Denmark seems that i didnt make it clear to urko who is responsible for the scenario. He keeps updating it so ask him for the scenario to take a look at it and request edits/changes to it here if u want.

I start with 8 provinces, and stability of +3.
By the way, I noticed that Selisia is a vassal of both Bohemia and Poland

=Silesia is Bohemian/Polish vassal in vanilla ToT so we didnt edit it there. Historically i remember that Silesian area consisted of several small states and most likely some of them were polish vassals and some bohemian.

NOTICE! Ask Urko for the byzantium leaderfile and say your opinions about it and also as it says in the first posts players are allowed to ask for 2 domestic slider moves now, so start replying on what you want so Urko can edit them in to the scenario. And welcome delosandes :rolleyes: !
 
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Email fixed, new rule added and how does everyone feel if we change the time to Wednesday? If we change it we might get a strong host capable of hosting over 14 players, but if theres alot of players here who cant make it on wednesday then we will keep it on tuesday and hope he can join us then.

EDIT: Concerning new rule, if you want prov/army/fleet name changes post them here clearly before the first session.
 

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DP sliders are: aristrocracy, centralization, innovativeness, ...
or land, naval, trade, infra ?
In the 1st option I choose 2 more land in despite of naval tech
In the 2nd option I choose to advance in infra by 2 levels because I never develop it during the game.
Thx very much. If I misunderstood, please edit a reply.
 

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Hear all, Here all.

The grand master of the north is about to say his words. GAther arounds all in your thousands, THe king of the invincible will now say what he has to say:

"Hello all"

That is what hte king of the north had to say. HAIL HIM! The king of the north also instructed yours truly- me to bring these changes to the denish kingdom:

centerlization+1 navel+1
 
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Domestic sliders are Aristocracy, Centralization, Innovativeness, Mercantilism, Offensive, Land, Quality and Serfdom. You can choose 2 changes into your sliders for example Mercantilism +1 and Land -1 or combine both changes into 1 slider for example +2 Quality.
 

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Seems all the good nations are taken already :) I guess I´ll just wait for another round.

Hehe, almost missed something, I was rather keen on England, and I saw that Dud was undecided? Is that still the case or...?

I have 8Mbits down and 1Mbit up
 

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Hello, all :D I think that + 2 Innovativeness will do for my domestic slider boosts. I'll try to get the Byzantine leader file this evening, and have a look at it.

EDIT: If the game is still from 12:00-4:30 (EST), then I wouldn't be able to play on Wednesdays. Tuesdays and Thursdays are still good for me, though.
 
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Captain Panda, we need a strong host but i cannot force Dud to leave England.

However the remaining three nations Brandenburg, Portugal and Poland are not "bad" choices. Portugal being the first colonizer has good potential, Brandenburg with its new cores will be a powerhouse which threatens all its neighbours (+it has no bad events) and Poland will be huge and powerfull nation if you can keep Lithuania alive until the union.
 

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Hello, all :D I think that + 2 Innovativeness will do for my domestic slider boosts. Urko, could you give me the Byzantine leader file on ICQ sometime this evening?

EDIT: If the game is still from 12:00-4:30 (EST), then I wouldn't be able to play on Wednesdays. Tuesdays and Thursdays are good for me.

Ok... Just connect yourself to ICQ before 18:30 CET, i'll be on-line all that time
 
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Welcome! Please post if you want any essential edits to Portugal or to change names of provinces/armies/fleets? And also please post 2 domestic slider movements you want which will be edited before we begin the game.
 
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Domestic slider requests so far:

Elio Vasa: +2 land
Von DIPCY: centralization +1 and naval +1
Charles II: innovativeness +2
delosandes: quality +2

Also Panda who might be our host and now Agazzi aswell could play better on wednesdays or thursdays. So Does ANYONE have any object in moving the game to either wednesdays or thursdays (same CET time). If not we move it to 1 of them but if there is objects we will try to keep it in tuesday. Please answer soon!
 

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I have no objection on playing on thursday but I need to change the time a bit. Could we start at 18.30 CET and end at 22.15 CET, the change with the 22.15 would be until the 4th of november.

If we play on tuesdays or fridays I wont need any change.