Pomerania Prince said:
OK, Stony you need to be more clear when you are talking as you and when you Role-Play. On one time you talking like the player and then you talking like RP. It is confusing. RP should go to AAR where I posted my response to Talyn. I took your post as personal not RP so I responded to it here but now you confusing me.
This post is personal btw. I agree with you that OE and Russia is over kill in manpower, but that is useless when comes to Navy. And you have to agree that this war will be a navy war. OE + Russia has smaller and way less develop navy than you, so it is us who have no chance to win it. So we have stalemate. I personally don't like the way war like this use EU engine and rules. It is RP on my part to support my ally and you know it. I don't want the war because I had plans for China, but I will not lave OE alone. That is RP and not "gangbangings". The fact that you will not ask Sweden has 2 points. 1 It is not RP. In real life every nation tried to use troops of others to achieve their ends. 2 It will give possibility to Russia and OE to get some positive VP. Sweden is very good but I think that 300mp of RUS + OE should do the trick. I think you would get better result by talking to Spex than giving him ultimatum. It is great RP for Holland to try getting traders everywhere and to protect them and it is RP by Russia helping OE. If there would be no alliance I would agree with you that RUS is looking for war that is not RP but is a "gangbang". Next time plz separate RP from personal so I can respond
Apologies for the confusion.
Nothing I ever write in these forums, outside OT of course, is ever meant to be personal. Any references made to Russia or the OE is in reference to the country, not the player. I enjoy this game and like all its players. Apologies if you or anyone else have seen my comments as anything more than Dutch propoganda. Stonewall the player is having a great time, even if Holland is about to get "raped."
I'm not going to get involved about what is good or bad RP for russia or OE, or anyone else. When games devolve to the point that players are complaining about each other' RP, thats when it starts to get nasty. I've seen it happen before and I have no desire to see this fun game turn into that. I brought up RP because I was confused about the intentions of people in game. If its powergaming, RP, or a combination thereof. I'm just trying to understand the motivations of the players, thats all. You all have played together before, I've only been with you for a few weeks. As a result, I'm still learning how all of you play and how you react to various situations and things like that.
For Dutch RP reasons, we won't call Sweden in an offensive war. As much as OE is the aggressor here, Holland will ultimately make the DoW. Our alliance with Sweden, AFAIK is defensive. Sweden's traders aren't being embargoed. He as no reason to war the OE. The problem is between Holland and the the OE. Like I said before, if the OE chooses to widen the war and involve Russia, that is entirely OE's perogative. Just as its Russia's perogative to join such a war.
PP: How do you expect me as a player to react to Specter's statement that "he will preside over an effort to dismantle the Dutch empire, even in my absence"? I had no intentions of telling Barca to attack the OE. I had been saving that joyous moment for when I could manage a stable connection.
It would have happeed ast session if I hadn't crashed. Like I said above, I'm not going to question your RP intentions. I trust that you can justify your actions. I'm not trying to pressure you to not heed OE's alliance call. It is perfectly within your rights to answer the call. I'm saying that for OE to even make the call in the first place will guarantee that there is no such thing as a 1-1 war anymore. If ever there was a case for 1 on 1 war, this is it.
I think you seriously overestimate my navy. Naval strength is meaningless if you can't put troops on the ground to make warscore gains. OE can recruit 200,000 right out of the gate and another 100,000 per year thereafter. Holland has to recruit expensive mercenaries in Holland and then ship them to Middle East with no friendly ports to stop naval attrition. OE is large and relatively wealthy. Any war with the OE will likely result in me losing. Thats not the point. The point is that Holland has been embargoed. The way I RP, it is unforgiveable to let a country embargo you and do nothing in return. I'm not playing on Friday nights to "win" the game. I'm playing to have fun and try to create some unusual situations, like Holland DoW'ing OE.
