New European Provinces Wishlist
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In VicII Albania has 5 provinces. And friesland has 3 provinces. I think that VicII map is the best.
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I would love to see two more provinces in the Northern Low Countries. It still has five provinces since the release of EU3. With two extra provinces you have the seven provinces aka the dutch republic.
I would like to add a 'oversticht' (overijssel/drenthe) province that belongs to Utrecht. Gelre has a core on it. Also you can remove the core of Utrecht from Gelre.
And the seventh should be the spilt of Holland, allthough it was split only in 1840 it gives more power to Holland. Amsterdam would be the capital of that new province, while the smaller Holland gets it's real capital 's-Gravenhage (The Hague).
I did a Balkans rework
Pretty nice job on that map. Honestly I'd take even half of those provinces... Maybe in a future DLC >.>
Northern part of Holland is also known as West-Frisia after Holland took it from the Frisians. So its still justified to make it its own province.
Friesland has 2 provinces. The southern one is Drenthe (capital Assen?).
Assen wouldn't fit as a capital during EU4 timeframe, coevorden would historical better. The lords 'van Coevorden' came from that city, and the canadian city vancouver is named after them. But a seperate Groningen and or Drenthe would be to much for that area, I would go for a westfrisia/noord holland option.
Eastern slavs region please, that region is always the biggest guilty for border gore in my games.
I did a Balkans rework
Though I'd like to see it come true in the game, for now it would be too many provinces unless half of them would be 2 or 3 base tax. They would have to redraw the whole Europe and then all the work they did for RoTW would become much less important than it should be. A third to half less added provinces you added would be good enough right now. And Cyprus should be 2 provinces, not three.
I did a Balkans rework
Isn't Serbia/Bosnia/Wallachia really poor though? Why so many provinces? I don't see the point in dividing Wallachia into 6 provinces
I did a Balkans rework
I really, really like this!
+1
Though I do think more provinces are required in the historically rich south, than the other Balkan minors.
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Well, Serbia and Bosnia were quite devastated by the constant wars, but Wallachia was comparatively rich and well populated after becoming an Ottoman vassal and until the Russo-Turkish wars began much later.
We just didn't have a lot of left over money due to the "protection tax" *cough* tribute to the Ottomans.
And to be honest, Wallachia had a higher population than 3-4x average HRE provinces in-game. But of course, every German hut (Hello there, Ulm!) deserves an OPM
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Well they may be poor at the start bit by the end who knows what could happen? That reminds me that the game needs a more dynamic economy system
People think far too much about quantity than quality. The game has to be in some kind of balance, the proposed map of the Balkan-region is far, FAR too crowded in my opinion. I don't get why people like it that much.
While I know that Europe is not THAT historical correct, it mostly works, gameplaywise. Just some minor tweaks here and there (especially in Italy). But nothing major anymore. And people that 'complain' about the HRE looking ahistorical; Paradox did a damn good job making it, it's a very complicated area, more so than any other place in the world. They have to take into account a lot more than just 'so this nation was in this spot so we've to include it'. I know some places need some work, but it's really nothing major.
Islands, like Sardinia and Cyprus for example, shouldn't be split. Whenever someone in EU4's timeframe took those islands over, they took everything, not halve of it. I wouldn't mind some changes to the Netherlands, but I'm not encouraging it either (though Amsterdam already being the capital feels a little bit strange, but eh, it was the most important trading hub for a time). (and I say that as a REAL Dutchman haha)
While I know that Europe is not THAT historical correct, it mostly works, gameplaywise. Just some minor tweaks here and there (especially in Italy). But nothing major anymore. And people that 'complain' about the HRE looking ahistorical; Paradox did a damn good job making it, it's a very complicated area, more so than any other place in the world. They have to take into account a lot more than just 'so this nation was in this spot so we've to include it'. I know some places need some work, but it's really nothing major.
Islands, like Sardinia and Cyprus for example, shouldn't be split. Whenever someone in EU4's timeframe took those islands over, they took everything, not halve of it. I wouldn't mind some changes to the Netherlands, but I'm not encouraging it either (though Amsterdam already being the capital feels a little bit strange, but eh, it was the most important trading hub for a time). (and I say that as a REAL Dutchman haha)
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Balearic Islands should be split in two (Mllorca/Menorca), and Madrid and Valencia should be separated by another province. A new province in Aragon that separates Zaragoza from Castille would also give strategical strength. Sicily should have 1 more province, and Sardinia another one. Big mediterranean islands should give more wealth and be more difficult to conquer. Also, Andalusia should be split into Seville and Cordoba, while Alentejo is absurdly enormous and should be split. Papal States should have Umbria, and Tuscany should have Luca. In general, Italy should follow the same tendency of getting more provinces and states as Germany does.
Sardinia really shouldn't be split. It was governed by a single country continuously from before EUIV starts to this day. It is a bad idea to split islands that work perfectly as single provinces. When you invade Sardinia, you take all. Not half, not a third. All of it.
V2 had more provinces because in V2 provinces = cities. Dont people realise that provinces have to be balanced with base tax, manpower, trade goods etc? In that Balkan map what base tax/MP will you give to them? 2? 3? 4? 5? Because no matter what you do places like Thessalonica, Ohrid, Zara, Edirne etc will have to have high BT. Congracts you've made a region as rich and populous as France.
The only Med Island that should have more than one province is Sicily because it was rediculously overpopulated and very productive, producing wines, silks, fruit, fish, sulphur while being one of the major suppliers of grain in Europe. That's where you need more provinces. The Balkans need at most 8-9 Provinces, 3 of which are added in AoW (Vidin, Plovdiv, Chios). It needs Skopje, Mackva, Syrmia, Negropont, Scutari, and another one in Muntenia, and that's it. Bosnia doesnt need 4 provinces :S Once could become Nissa. Bingo.
The only Med Island that should have more than one province is Sicily because it was rediculously overpopulated and very productive, producing wines, silks, fruit, fish, sulphur while being one of the major suppliers of grain in Europe. That's where you need more provinces. The Balkans need at most 8-9 Provinces, 3 of which are added in AoW (Vidin, Plovdiv, Chios). It needs Skopje, Mackva, Syrmia, Negropont, Scutari, and another one in Muntenia, and that's it. Bosnia doesnt need 4 provinces :S Once could become Nissa. Bingo.
I agree with what you're saying. But Bosnia already has 4 provinces
And looking at the rework in the image, he didn't really add that many more provinces, they just look more crowded because of the border color. I know the in-game region quite well and I'd say that there are only 3-4 extra provinces from the map they've shown for Art of War (and probably 7-8 from the current map). The only exception is Wallachia which IMO has a bit too many provinces in his rework, I'd actually make 4 provinces at most, something like: Oltenia (already existing), Targoviste, Bucuresti, Baragan (created from splitting up the current Muntenia). He has 6 in his rework.
Imho europe needs minor changes, not a complete rework. Also i thought that people meant as reworking italy something like adding 1 province in the north 2 in the middle and 2 in the south, not 6 provinces in the north and 2 more on sicily (with all due respect for that island why shall it have 4 provinces total while the rest of the south would be way less dense? i would add siracusa as a medium-rich province in sicily and one poor province on the southern part of the peninsula) and for the middle i would prefer to see a real urbino as an inner duchy with its real province (not owning ancona in 1444), than a mini province made just for rome... also i would add a province in tuscany (lucca anyone? indipendent till 1799 is enough for u to consider them?) rather than adding more than 1 province in the north. Northern part of italy is already both dense and rich, that's what i'm saying...
Also, actually this is the really important matter... please shut down that mega lombard culture, i can't withstand watching lombard as a culture of sardinia and tuscany, it's also the biggest culture group by base tax, greater than tartar too, so you're not nerfing anything...and i would have split sardinia at least in 2. In 1444 it's true that it was almost completely aragonese (almost... the northern part was genoese, castelsardo, also called casteldoria because it was owned by doria family was lost in 1448) but if we want to follow eu rules the kingdom of arborea should still own its cores there since it was conquered during the preceding century. So it's just your choice, but please at least consider to rework the mega culture group because sardinia at that time was already more catalan than lombard (also because it's never been lombard?)....
And my 2 cents for the balkans, i'm not against a rework of that region, but the example posted... way too much dense...
Also, actually this is the really important matter... please shut down that mega lombard culture, i can't withstand watching lombard as a culture of sardinia and tuscany, it's also the biggest culture group by base tax, greater than tartar too, so you're not nerfing anything...and i would have split sardinia at least in 2. In 1444 it's true that it was almost completely aragonese (almost... the northern part was genoese, castelsardo, also called casteldoria because it was owned by doria family was lost in 1448) but if we want to follow eu rules the kingdom of arborea should still own its cores there since it was conquered during the preceding century. So it's just your choice, but please at least consider to rework the mega culture group because sardinia at that time was already more catalan than lombard (also because it's never been lombard?)....
And my 2 cents for the balkans, i'm not against a rework of that region, but the example posted... way too much dense...