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Ok due to popular demand, I will make and edit and create a new German build, and I will be taking over.
This build will include a few changes and be added to the November 28th save, which was the last save I have from the host. The one I have from April 12th is the non-host save, and I think some things need to be changed in the German strategy.
One thing is that I will create Slovakia rather than greater Hungary. Denmark will be completely occuppied, and Axis and Netherlands will not be at war. I would like to go right back to September 1st really and avoid the whole early DOW on Belgium thing, but perhaps that is too much to ask.
What do people say... November 28th, or September 1st. I'll go with either.
This build will include a few changes and be added to the November 28th save, which was the last save I have from the host. The one I have from April 12th is the non-host save, and I think some things need to be changed in the German strategy.
One thing is that I will create Slovakia rather than greater Hungary. Denmark will be completely occuppied, and Axis and Netherlands will not be at war. I would like to go right back to September 1st really and avoid the whole early DOW on Belgium thing, but perhaps that is too much to ask.
What do people say... November 28th, or September 1st. I'll go with either.
Cueball said:
Sept 1rst sounds fair to me.There's no reason u put hands in someone else strategy.
So Silver is now going ussr after steve is swaping to germany..What a mess...
Besides I seen no popular demand, myself I would vote for a restart from 36, specially since I've been tricked by an USA embargo (damn bug) for almost one year that costed me over 50-60k energy stock, I'm economically as dead as a germany that start a war with 30k rares.
Besides I seen no popular demand, myself I would vote for a restart from 36, specially since I've been tricked by an USA embargo (damn bug) for almost one year that costed me over 50-60k energy stock, I'm economically as dead as a germany that start a war with 30k rares.
Hiensen said:So Silver is now going ussr after steve is swaping to germany..What a mess...
Besides I seen no popular demand, myself I would vote for a restart from 36, specially since I've been tricked by an USA embargo (damn bug) for almost one year that costed me over 50-60k energy stock, I'm economically as dead as a germany that start a war with 30k rares.
Edit hiensen -3 IC for 60k energy then.
Hiensen said:So Silver is now going ussr after steve is swaping to germany..What a mess...
Besides I seen no popular demand, myself I would vote for a restart from 36, specially since I've been tricked by an USA embargo (damn bug) for almost one year that costed me over 50-60k energy stock, I'm economically as dead as a germany that start a war with 30k rares.
I am fine either way, really its WM who insists. He really, really wants to get to war. What do other people say?
Lets vote on new start, or edited version:
New:
Hiensen
Edit:
WM
Abstain:
KT2
Cueball
New:
Hiensen
Edit:
WM
Abstain:
KT2
Cueball
im sure that aslong the proper edits are done things should work out fine.Continue.
If I had to make a choice, I would say NEW; only because I know how I am about playing other people's games. In other words, I would prefer to play my own game from scratch than try and cleanup someone else's game. I do totally understand WM's point of view though, lots of time spent on these games only to have them burn out after one or 2 sessions of actual game play. :wacko:
Cueball said:
Well it was a totaly hassle wedding the new build to the old game, as we saw, so, I don't think I will be doing that again. That said, you are all troopers for persevering and waiting in valky for 2 and 1/2 hours while we ironed out the bugs.
Turth be told, when we cancelled the early game, that is when I started doing the work, and there were numerous problems with things such as combats happening between units that simply no longer existed on the map, and so on, so the whole IC allocation thing didn't even enter my head. So sorry about that.
As I promised, above I did a large IC run Germany, along these lines:
I made a new build order because I did not want to expose my exact OBB to the Allies, since that would spoil the fun. However, I should note that in all the confusion with the province IC allocations, I accidentally added about 5 IC to Germany that was not there when I built it, so I will take that out and we can deduct supplies. Basically all I did was play though from 1936 til august 1939, and then added the German, Slovak and Magyar OBB's to the original September 1939 save from two weeks ago. I removed also the war with Belgium, removed Belgium from the Allies and took Hungary out of the Axis, adding Slovakia, instead.
I'll post the final game save, and the original save later so that people can confirm everything is alright with their countries.
Fun to play Germany again. Thanks for your patience everyone.
Turth be told, when we cancelled the early game, that is when I started doing the work, and there were numerous problems with things such as combats happening between units that simply no longer existed on the map, and so on, so the whole IC allocation thing didn't even enter my head. So sorry about that.
As I promised, above I did a large IC run Germany, along these lines:
I made a new build order because I did not want to expose my exact OBB to the Allies, since that would spoil the fun. However, I should note that in all the confusion with the province IC allocations, I accidentally added about 5 IC to Germany that was not there when I built it, so I will take that out and we can deduct supplies. Basically all I did was play though from 1936 til august 1939, and then added the German, Slovak and Magyar OBB's to the original September 1939 save from two weeks ago. I removed also the war with Belgium, removed Belgium from the Allies and took Hungary out of the Axis, adding Slovakia, instead.
I'll post the final game save, and the original save later so that people can confirm everything is alright with their countries.
Fun to play Germany again. Thanks for your patience everyone.
I would like to join Gunny in ally with Gunny taking Italy if thats ok.
My availability is great except Oct 23 to Nov 3. During that period gunny is Ok replace me if he has germany of course.
My availability is great except Oct 23 to Nov 3. During that period gunny is Ok replace me if he has germany of course.
You are boof I take it. Thanks for signing up. The thread for the game we are talking about is actually over here: http://forums.ederon.net/default.aspx?g=posts&m=28951#28951
Here is the save from last week: EIRII -- WedNA -- Frankenstein Session I
You all should all have a copy of the original EIRwed_september 1st save if you want to double check you country.
Edits so far to this save: Removed 6 IC that Germany should not have legitimately had, and deducted 1000 supllies to compensate for Germany having it for 3 months. Is that fair?
Perhaps we need to cut some supplies form Italy since it had Phoney war for three months with Albania. An innocent mistake, but nonetheless now that things are balanced better for Axis perhaps we should consider that. Comments?
Silver, I checked the build for SU for September 1st, 1939 and you are right, I had one of the wrong ministers in, the +15 foreign IC use minister, instead of the -5 consumer good minister. Mia culpa. I guess it slipped my mind while we were playing. I get a lot of chatter in chat, so somtimes things get lost. You know how to change ministers? If you do I suggest you do it.
You all should all have a copy of the original EIRwed_september 1st save if you want to double check you country.
Edits so far to this save: Removed 6 IC that Germany should not have legitimately had, and deducted 1000 supllies to compensate for Germany having it for 3 months. Is that fair?
Perhaps we need to cut some supplies form Italy since it had Phoney war for three months with Albania. An innocent mistake, but nonetheless now that things are balanced better for Axis perhaps we should consider that. Comments?
Silver, I checked the build for SU for September 1st, 1939 and you are right, I had one of the wrong ministers in, the +15 foreign IC use minister, instead of the -5 consumer good minister. Mia culpa. I guess it slipped my mind while we were playing. I get a lot of chatter in chat, so somtimes things get lost. You know how to change ministers? If you do I suggest you do it.