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I have an idea for a new decision, called "Encourage Vassals to Expand De Jure Realm." It only works for Kings, but this would maybe be a like a "Request Claim on Ireland" from the pope. Only instead of you requesting permission, you grant permission to your vassals to attack enemy holdings of your future De Jure Empire. Not sure what the benefits would be, maybe it costs prestige to take, but makes declaring what would maybe be called "Liege Encouraged Conquest" cheaper in prestige and/or piety. Maybe it begins to form a friendship with the vassal that does it. Maybe both, maybe something else entirely.
 

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This makes no sense, especially as a decision, since de jure drift takes 100 years to happen. Besides, what are you gonna do in the game then? Hold feasts for 600 years?
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My suggestion is to encourage vassals to allow you to form a de jure empire. De Jure Drift has nothing to do with it. You're encouraging vassals to take counties and duchies that are already part of your future de jure empire.
 

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So for clarification.

I'm the King of England, holding all of England. I take the decision to encourage my vassals to "expand" my de jure realm, and they then feel more encouraged to conquer the rest of Britannia which isn't yet de jure to me?

So it functionally *isn't* a de jure casus belli, as I don't have any de jure claim to any of the land I'm telling my vassals to attack.
 

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So for clarification.

I'm the King of England, holding all of England. I take the decision to encourage my vassals to "expand" my de jure realm, and they then feel more encouraged to conquer the rest of Britannia which isn't yet de jure to me?

So it functionally *isn't* a de jure casus belli, as I don't have any de jure claim to any of the land I'm telling my vassals to attack.
When you put it that way... umm, yes it's not a De Jure casus belli. I'm just looking for a way to get around truces, I guess. If I can't attack an enemy (or don't want to because I have a truce with the guy and don't want to take the penalties), my vassals can, and I want to encourage them to do so... But giving it some more though, it's a bad idea.
 

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Doesn't the feudal contract for sanctioned war make them expand outside more frequently?

I think this is just a button to encourage something vassals should already be doing on their own.

The main reason vassals don't expand outside of your borders is usually that they're not strong enough I think. You have to remember they're slightly weaker than an independant equal title realm.