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I don't mind the game being pushed back. What I mind is that it is pushed back to the *14th*. Either side of that day would have been better. Now, I won't be able to play it on release day because it's Valentine's day - a day I spend exclusively with my spouse!

So, here's my vote: change it to the 15th, or 13th. ;)
 

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Being disappointed I understand. Demanding extras? What's with that? If you want the game badly enough that a week's delay upsets you, surely you don't need anything added on top of it. If the game is not enough to make you happy, why does waiting a bit longer bother you?

Of course I want extras, and if you do not ask you do not receive.

I am not that much disapointed by the release being postponed as much as it being postponed for marketing purposes. If its done it should be released. If its not released it should be developed until release.

I am not so much interested what, but something should be developed, modeled and added to the final release. If we are to wait for the game to have a bigger sales impact, than Paradox should make extra time investment in this period to make the effect even higher by taking the game one more step up.

Give us something that will make patience worthwhile. Even something trivial and superficial is better than nothing.
 

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It's a bit embarrassing for Gamersgate who have already taken peoples money to have to wait till one of it's rivals gets it's act together.
 

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It's a bit embarrassing for Gamersgate who have already taken peoples money to have to wait till one of it's rivals gets it's act together.

I must disagree; wouldn't it be more embarrassing for the rival?

If I were GamersGate (personification ftw), I would be boasting as to how my enemy is incompetent.
 

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I'm going to cut myself a bit but waiting can be joyful, too ...
And at least it's not named "Crusader Kings Forever", that would take years to release ^-^
 

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It's a bit embarrassing for Gamersgate who have already taken peoples money to have to wait till one of it's rivals gets it's act together.

Thats why PI should allow people that preordered into beta (tag it on the game sites as, preorder to play beta) like so many others did, that would not only ease the pain for loyal fans but it would still allow them to set the sales date as the 14th...

I mean, I don't really care if its called beta or early access or whatever.. but again I can wait that 1 week aswell, not that big a deal, but I see alot of annoyed fans and thats never a good thing.
 

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Its a new third person Fantasy RPG. It's looks like a more grown-up Fable. On first impressions it seems pretty lame despite the usual rave reviews.


Just been taking a look and yeah, that looks kind of......... Well, put it this way, I like RPGs and I won't be bothering with that. To be honest I can't see how it's really competition for CK2 in terms of quality or subject matter really...
 

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Of course I want extras, and if you do not ask you do not receive.

I am not that much disapointed by the release being postponed as much as it being postponed for marketing purposes. If its done it should be released. If its not released it should be developed until release.

I am not so much interested what, but something should be developed, modeled and added to the final release. If we are to wait for the game to have a bigger sales impact, than Paradox should make extra time investment in this period to make the effect even higher by taking the game one more step up.

Give us something that will make patience worthwhile. Even something trivial and superficial is better than nothing.

What a joke.... This sort of sense of entitlement is a shame since Paradox doesn't owe us anything and to ask for bonuses simply because they decided to push back the release date is childish in the extreme. What do you seriously think they could do in a week? Develop some art for a loading screen saying "Sorry we made you wait another week"? That's seriously all you could conceivably get in such a short period of time since trying to add any other assets would demand testing, modification, retesting, balancing, tweaking, more testing etc. Why even mess with anything at this late stage when all the previewers are saying its pretty much running smooth?

This gives them an extra week for developing a day one patch or fitting as many fixes into the game before the game is sent out to Steam and Gamersgate.

Sorry to hear of the game's delay but I wish you the best of luck in its release. I know that I have been looking forward to this game for years and will greatly enjoy the final product no matter when it comes.
 

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Being disappointed I understand. Demanding extras? What's with that? If you want the game badly enough that a week's delay upsets you, surely you don't need anything added on top of it. If the game is not enough to make you happy, why does waiting a bit longer bother you?

This sounds quite heavy handed. What's wrong with asking for extras? Assuming that the original poster had pre-ordered, I would assume that he, like me, pre-ordered on the basis of, amongst others, the fact that CKII will be out on 7 February. Sure, a week's delay isn't a huge deal for most of us but this may be an issue for him. Asking for extras could just be his way of seeking compensation for the delay he has to put up with. I am sure there is something in the fine print that says that the release date is tentative and subject to change but the 7 February release date has been there for some time now with no indication that this would be changed.

Wanting the game badly enough that it upsets a person surely does not preclude him asking for extras as a form of compensation? Presumably any extras received would go some way to making him less upset. I mean it is one thing if the release had to be delayed because bugs needed to be fixed but its quite another where the sole purpose of the delay seems to be a marketing play. The latter is certainly understandable from a commercial perspective but I can see why this would upset a gamer who has been waiting a while for this.

Ultimately, it boils down to this, a one week delay may not mean much to you but it may to others so asking for stuff as compensation is well within his rights and honestly speaking, quite understandable. Of course, there is no way Pdox would give anything extra for a one week delay which they undoubtedly think is justified but still, the man can ask.
 

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It's a bit embarrassing for Gamersgate who have already taken peoples money to have to wait till one of it's rivals gets it's act together.

Yeah. I've waited for ages for CK2 so, while having the date pushed forward when close to release is worse than if it had been months ago, it doesn't feel like a big deal (although not having it be for Dev reasons is pretty lame). But when the proposed main client for distribution doesn't even bother getting their games up for sale (Divine Wind, anyone?)? Ouch, GamersGate.
 
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Thats why PI should allow people that preordered into beta (tag it on the game sites as, preorder to play beta) like so many others did, that would not only ease the pain for loyal fans but it would still allow them to set the sales date as the 14th...

I mean, I don't really care if its called beta or early access or whatever.. but again I can wait that 1 week aswell, not that big a deal, but I see alot of annoyed fans and thats never a good thing.
I like this idea. That or release the demo, say, tomorrow :p
 

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Thats why PI should allow people that preordered into beta (tag it on the game sites as, preorder to play beta) like so many others did, that would not only ease the pain for loyal fans but it would still allow them to set the sales date as the 14th...

I mean, I don't really care if its called beta or early access or whatever.. but again I can wait that 1 week aswell, not that big a deal, but I see alot of annoyed fans and thats never a good thing.

I don't see this happening, but boy would I like it.
 

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Yeah. I've waited for ages for CK2 so, while having the date pushed forward when close to release is worse than if it had been months ago, it doesn't feel like a big deal (although not having it be for Dev reasons is pretty lame). But when the proposed main client for distribution doesn't even getting their games up for sale (Divine Wind, anyone?)? Ouch, GamersGate.

I agree it's not a big deal this time around but if, as I suspect, STEAM are going to be the main distributor in the future then things need to change. Namely the fact that unlike companies like Amazon who only debit your account on date of release both Steam and Gamersgate take your money on the day you pre-order. Now I'm sure that must surely give us some recourse for any grievances or failure to comply with previous commitments or if we fail to receive the goods as promised and if today's announcement is the future of things then any money changing hands should discontinue.

The reason I chose to pre-order was because I thought it would be beneficial for Paradox Publishing to have pre-sales figures to use for negotiations with other interested third parties.
It has not benefited me in the slightest especially when I could have purchased a physical copy elsewhere for almost half the retail price I paid [ I paid £29.95 but could have paid £17.95 elsewhere] I could have foregone the DLC and bought that separately and still saved £8!!
Am I angry about this, no because I put faith in loyalty and good customer service. I have never been let down before and I'd like to think loyalty will be rewarded.