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It seems to me its the Axis who,s getting their butts handed around in the Sunday game. The USA overrun Half of germany with just a raid. Is back in force in the Southern Phillappines. Lost no ground to the Japs in the Pacific. France has been freed by the Allies and the Red Army is already inside the German Homelands.

And its only Sept 1943 :)





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Plans are being made in Tokyo to give the Americans a nice wake up call.
 
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Regarding the Italian advances in this game, the world should note Italy's lack of armoured and infantry divisions now that the Germans have taken them back :eek:
 

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Stalin and Tojo do deal

Stalin was pleased to announce a NAP has been negotiated with the Japanese Empire. The NAP will last untill the end of 1943. No enemies of the Japanese Empire will be permitted on Soviet territory and no enemies of the USSR will be permitted on Japanese territory untill the NAP expires.

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Cyrus was finaly tacken with 4 allied divisions destroyed and a number of air divisions not sure howmany, could be 4-13 the UK player can confirm this. Not a huge amount of action this session. I think it was the depth breath before the big plunge into a new operation.

There were about 10 allied air units on Cyprus, the obsolete airforces of Belgium, Netherlands etc. About 5 got destroyed, I think they were all level 1 tac bombers.

In other news, the heroic Royal Naval Sailors of Force H, and RAF and RAAF naval bombers sunk a large part of the Kreigsmarine who for some reason made a dash through the channel without bothering about any air cover. Britain seems an impregnable fortress, with 4 divisions guarding every beach, Radar, Flak, and other neat stuff. But we will not let our guard down.

Axis units have been seen streaming out of Persia, especially German armoured units. I wonder where they're going?
 

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About the sunday game, thats a bold statment when all allied forces are about to be destroyed in western europe. No country has been liberated due to allied incompetence in doing invasions, hell if i made stupid errors like what you guys do, germany would not make it to 1940. But anyway keep this thread for this game post your lies in the approiate thread.

Ah Omni you have no idea what your talking about. They are all my armoured forces i paid for them. We are simply changing commanders so that Germany will now have a number of skill 7 pazer commanders to fght the USSR, after all there succes in africa and the middle east there skills are very high now. All the tanks you have seen are mine, with alot more to come. Great when you can give supplies to your major allie and they build high quality forces for you, with all the best techs, best sliders and minsters and alot higher org, you would have to be dumb to build them yourself as a smaller nation.

The axis so far to this point has never been in stronger position at this point in any game. The unprecdented co-operation between Germany and italy is a first in our hoi 2 games. Normaly italy is too worried about its empire, but ive put germanies interest and the benifit of final victory first. I never dreamt i could destroy so many allied forces and conquerer so much. Imagine playing italy, you fought of an invasion of your homeland, destroyed over 30 ships in the process with 6 UK divisions destroyed, then over ran all of egypt destroyed another 12 divisions, then overan all of the middle east destroying another 30+ allied division. Also while doing this destroying another 40 odd allied ships. My total loses 2 infantry and 8 ships. That translates into an 8-1 kill ratio in ships and 30-1 in land forces. I did all of this being outnumbered and severly out gunned at sea. Tactics makes up for any disadvantage in IC.

Omni has also proved this in the sunday game, ive never seen Japan whoop you allies so badly befor. He has truly smashed both US and UK forces while his IC is only 1/8 or less of the combined allied IC.

If you think IC is going to win the war you are wrong. Its how you use what ever forces you have. Dosnt matter if your the US with 1000 IC, if you waste all your forces in stupid attacks, there comes a point where even your manpower will be exhausted.

Same as in Nolan/Jhs invasion of europe, they made a big blunder a few actualy. They stuffed up there supply situation after i pushed them back from there main supply port. They also underestimated the Strength of the German army. Even if all forces were fully supplied (only -20 effect) you simply do not have the power to match the germany army at present. They rushed there invasion to early and will now suffer when most of all of there forces are destroyed. The russians cant do much except push a few proinvces in alot of there army is so badly beaten up there divisions are near destroyed, with hardly any manpower to bring them up. The allies fell for the same trap as allways, just becuase they didnt see troops on the beaches they invaded.

As germany you dont defend beaches with alot, stupid when your enmey will always attack with large forces that can more then likely encircle your forces. You let them invade, spread out to thin there lines, then you attack out of germany where they cant see nothing with massive forces. Cant believe you have fallen for this again Nolan, ive done nearly this exact same thing to you in a past game and also in a few others best strategy for deating any allied invasion. Dostnt matter if you reduce IC for a while when you lose most of your forces.

I would for once like to see allied players actualy plan an invasion very carefuly and not get rushed into an invasion becuase the USSR is under the pump and cannot win by them selves. You really do need to plan for 80-100 divisions to land nearly all at once, then Germany is royal beaten. Do not rush things, plan carefully and plan for overwhelming force, 40-50 allied divisions is easily countered. The US should lead the invasion to get the land for supply, the UK has to know its place and play second fiddle if they want to win, and work closely together. The Uk must learn to do what the US wants basiclay once they join the war, of they dont you will never beat Germany. A house devided will never stand.

I have realy enjoyed Italy, more fun then germany, most of the time your just fighting the AI as Germany. Italy how ever takes the brunt of the land fighting agasint mostyl human oppents a real good challenge.

Also well done GK you have been smashed for the first few years. But ive seen a big improvement in your tactics and builds now. You will be a good challenge with more expencence in MP, had me concerned for a little bit.
 

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You havent played against me yet Mike, I am cautious by nature and a hoarder. I could've joined this war already but my nature is to wait and make sure I have my bases covered. ANyone whos played EU2 will tell you that I will not attack without certainty of victory and that I wait and wait and find the weak point and exploit it. If that means I am slow to launch an invasion then so be it, if this game goes until 1948 then so be it, I dont see anyone complaining if we have a long war. The US advantage lies in time, the more time I take the more likely victory becomes. Anyway I know I'm a noob and likely to be outmanuvered by you on the battlefield so I will be cautious to the extreme, i wont waste forces rest assured. :)
 

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Hey you guys put your egos away..Start another thread for gloating and defeatist talk and propaganda. Let get some facts right for a start the 1938 scenario is scew for a lot of players especially the minors. The Russians dont have enough MP to reflect their vast resources. At the same stage in a 1936 game the Russians would have over 2000MP and another 100 divisions. I personally think the 38 game has just about run its course along with the Tuesday game where Mike is getting he arse kicked :)

And lets get some facts right...It is all Adolfs conquest in the MED. El Duce is having delusions :)
 

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No point in ending them major. Im not prepared to give up the sunday game on the eve of my biggest victory. Once ive dealt with the allies your next, so no way in hell we are giving up. Germany also starts with alot less manpower major, and ive had less IC then the UK for most of the game so its all fair you just wasted to much of your is mass attacksin the first years, eventualy it catches up with you. IF the game goes for years still im playing. I'll also play out the tuesday game, im not done yet, still anything can happen.

Best way to be BB, cautious at first. If you allied screams for help dont just rush in where your likly to lose, pln it carefully. If you plan on doing invasions its always waise to have some sort of reserve forces that can be used if your invasion gets into trouble and they can atlest support an evac.

Adolf dont take my glory in the med, ive done nearly all the fighting with maninly my troops for most of this war. You have only provided some back and not much for very long either. IF you want italian help and our co-operation to continue then you will cease these insults. I will play this like im a the leader and demand an apology publicly, or you will recive no help for russia at all or ever again ill go it alone..

Cyas 6.30 toinight. Also GK ill email you the save to edit the ships if you can.
 
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Ok, I've edited most of Bumble's fleet into the USN pacific fleet, all but one WWI destroyer. For some reasn, moving the whole thing gave errors. And I wasn't able to move the commander back either.

But the US has its battleships back, that's the main thing. I've emailed the edited save to you Mike. It ran ok, with no errors.
 

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Glad to hear I got my Battleships back, dont worry about the GA either he was an old guard anyway. :)
 

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Well I got into the war last night, racked up 5 dissent in the process though. Oh well...

I'm looking forward to tussling with the axis tonight. :)
 

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War Report June 1941

Russian spy ships off the coast of Germany had violated a NAP so the Germans declared war on Russia and streamed accross the border. Minimal resistance was meant with the German navy and airforce controlling the seas and air. An invasion at Talinan by German marines and paratroopers was successful and a counterattack by 6 motorised divisions was easily defeated.
Very light casualties have been sustained. All early objectives have been met. The only resistance was a counterattack by Soviet tanks which was easily defeated.

The USA declared war under no provaction and will be defeated as well.
 

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The war goes well.

Although a quiet session for italy, it saw the unleash of operation Romper Stomper against the USSR, reports indicate that war will soon be won just like all the others. Axis reperations for a massive naval expansion are under way. Once the USSR is dealt with the full axis power will be turned against the UK and then final the USA for final victory.

After the USA joined the war, a number of escourt fighter groups were intercepted over the ocean near morroco and somalia. It seems the US airforces cannot even rebase planes properly, hahahahahah. This will indeed be another easy war over the USA.

Italy liberated Jordan, Iraq, Saudia arabia, yemen, oman, Ethiopia, sudan, somalia and finaly Isreal. Italy even gave Isreal more land so that greater isreal could be created. This means all the Jews of the world now allowing all jews to move there, and not forcing the axis to take othere measures against them.

So far Italy has liberated half of africa and all of the Middle east. Why then do the democracies of the world fight us, even though there only false democracise, pathetic.

Ities alliance with all its puppets has reaped great rewards, with so many recsources flowing into the mainland. TC has been massively reduced, so many new units are being built by all my puppets. Our combined IC is over 200 now, another great benifit is Italy no longer has to build supplies due to having so many puppets and doing deals with them for supplies. All excess resources and supplies are heading to the eastern front to help with the offensive there.

Good game, playing again tonight 7pm.