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Hey nolan you should play EU2 in MP, the ai is incredibly stupid...no competition at all :p

I cant join until I have enough airpower to ensure I can defend the pacific from japan, at this stage my islands are vulnreble if Munster launches all out offensives. even though every island has 9 div defense they have little air cover, allowing his 8 CV task force to approach...My remaining 6 CVs are a while away, until then his fleet holds the adavantage, especially since I have to keep Nimitz on the east coast in case hitler tries soemthing foolish. It sucks I lost my battleship fleet to that lame event. if it cant be edited back could I ask GK to move that fleet to the east coast and patrol? That will allow me to move all my CVs to the pacific. As BBs can handle the pathetic escuses that are the Italain/german fleets :rofl:
 

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Here's what my reply to the request got in the Mods forums

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Search the save game file for e.g. "USS Nevada", when you have it cut the

division = {

(unit stats here)
....

}

or, if there are several divisions behind each other, then up to the last one. Leave the rest under "navalunit", like it is. Then paste the whole thing into a US Fleet (behind an existing division).

Basically, all we need to do is cut and paste the fleet from the British naval unit section in the save game to the US fleet section in the save game.
 

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Can someone pls do that before next session? I really need those ships back :)

One ship that is definetly part of that fleet is the BB USS Arizona, or the Grand Admirals names is Leahy. Searching for either will find the right place :)
 

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Ok well ive edited the save, you have your 30 ships back. BUT everytime we load it comes up with a critical error that you have to keep pressing enter and then the game loads fine. Im not sure what effect this will have on the save or the game. I have made a copy of the save anyway so if it corrupts tha game we have a backup. Also i had to run a few days to do all of this. The error is and ID tag error. I have changed the numbers of the Id tags as it seems after the event fired it made duplicate ID tags for other US fleets. Even after changing th Id tags it still comes with critical error, but the save does work.

If anyone knows how to fix it then fell free to do the edit yourself. The only reason i have edited is becuase the event fired twice becuase of the crash, so it was a BUG.

Also guys if we have crashes and an event fires for the second time, then always select NO not matter what the consquence is eg dissent. You just have to live with it.
 

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Well, a critical error means something's wrong- most likely a duplicate id, as you say. I can have a stab at editing it if you like. Could you send the unedited save to gjergk@lycos.co.uk, and I'll see if I can fix it.
 

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Well if editing my fleet stuffs up the save then I'll just have to live with UK expeding it back to me once I join the war.

On another note...I've pulled a muscle in my back and it is currently excruiciatingly painful to sit at the computer, hopefully it will be ok by tommorow :( I'm a fragile little thing...
 

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GK is having alook at the save to see if he can find ho to do it without getting the errors. But the simplest way is just for the UK to exp them back once war starts.

Also i have edited the denmark bug as they should have surrendered to Germany, easy fix.

I also edited the Peace treaty between Germany/USSR. So this way the USSR can dow on germany anytime it likes same for germany. Other wise this gives Germany another whole year to move all its forces against the UK and there is nothing the USSR could do about it. If people dont like this fix just means war is delayed until summer of 42, and thats along wait for will be a few weeks before we get there. As the germany play it ouldnt be worth even dow then, let the USSR dow on you. So best solution is to edit.

Major is also looking into any quick ways to edit techs when we lose them.
 

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I can't find the source of the errors Mike- do you have a copy of the original unedited save? I just know people are going to be really, really pissed off at letting the AI run things for a day. I think I figured out a way of making it so there are no errors, but I'm no good at finding errors once they're there.

EDIT: Oh yeah, the game crashed when I clicked on the battle screen as the UK, so I don't think it's going to be any good.
 
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So is BB better yet? I don't think we can use the edited save. I've no idea what Mike changed to cause the ID conflict, the game crashes when I click on the battles button, and the AI has changed so much stuff it'll take ages ti get things right.
 

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Bumble Bee said:
Well if editing my fleet stuffs up the save then I'll just have to live with UK expeding it back to me once I join the war.

On another note...I've pulled a muscle in my back and it is currently excruiciatingly painful to sit at the computer, hopefully it will be ok by tommorow :( I'm a fragile little thing...

BB -- In addition to my next Lend Lease Shipment, I have arranged for a special shipment of.........cotton wool for you. Instructions are attached!

Clearly you are a 'fragile little thing', and we need to preserve you for future games....posterity.....and your up-front wit.

Hope this shipment does the job......if not, blame the Axis!!!

Cheers
 

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The Albatross said:
BB -- In addition to my next Lend Lease Shipment, I have arranged for a special shipment of.........cotton wool for you. Instructions are attached!

Clearly you are a 'fragile little thing', and we need to preserve you for future games....posterity.....and your up-front wit.

Hope this shipment does the job......if not, blame the Axis!!!

Cheers

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I can play Sunday night :) But we will have to finish at 10:30 no later.

I'm pleased to report that Robert Oppenheimer is making fast progress towards the Atomic Bomb :D I can assure the peoples of Japan, Italy and Germany that America does nto wish to actually use this weapon, it is only designed to force your leaders into peace.

On another note, 150 1941 tech Inf divisions have been ordered, along with 150 SP Art brigades. :) We have discovered the etch for Mechanized divisions and they will form the main bulk of our army in later years. Also Sherman tanks are being constructed and will enter service shortly. And our airforces will soon rival any of those on earth. 18months of builds have put me equal to Germany and Japans 5 years of builds. By 1944 I will have easily triple what you have. Once war begins I will have 350 useable IC, you can surrender now if you wish. :D
 

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OK well if we only play till 10.30 what about a 6pm start?

Hahaha you are deluding yourself BB. Look what happened to nolan last game and the UK. They got there buts handed to them even though the had a combined 4-5 times Japans IC. IC means little unless you use it right. To much IC leads to overconfidence and lets you think you can waste alot.

UP until now i have not built to many manpower intensive units. I can also built lots of 1941 infantry, i can easily build another 60 divisions giving me over 100 by myself. So if you think 150 divisions is any threat, go away and come back when you got a real army. 150 infantry of the US is nothing when italy can match 2/3 of your forces alone.

This session saw lots of battles in persia with only 3-4 provinces gained due to hard terriain. Not much more to be gained in this area, as all objectives have been achived. Forces continue to push down the east coast of africa having recovered nearly all of ethiopia and beyond. Cyrus was finaly tacken with 4 allied divisions destroyed and a number of air divisions not sure howmany, could be 4-13 the UK player can confirm this. Not a huge amount of action this session. I think it was the depth breath before the big plunge into a new operation.
 

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The problem with the naval battles last game was caused by a player dropping out of the game which results in beeing unable to issue commands to your units. This meant my Ships were in battle for 10 hours more than they should have been. When the player eventually dropped out and we restarted I was able to retreat. We need to keep an eye on this in the future as a lot of ships can be sunk. It wasnt so much that my units could not retreat they were not moving also. Fortunately with the restart everything worked out ok although a few ships less than what I started with.
 

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Mike your not listening, wehn you are engaged vs the SU you will be spending your manpower to maintain the armies you have. What I will doing with m near bottomless MP is building so many new divs that I will surpass germany and Italy within 3 years. How can you resist 300 SU divs along with 300 US divs? Japan can be conatined with naval bombers and CVs I dont require massive forces in the Pacific. My strategy is Europe first and thats where all my ground forces will be going. When you are knocked out of the war Mike major will feel the pinch even more. :D
 

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As per Gk concerns..

OK..well after further testing I have discovered that althought the tech shows up as been completed its affects do not happen. That is if you add a fighter tech its shows as being tech but you cant build that fighter :)

In conclusion unless someone who has a few more brains then I do comes up with a solution we will have to settle for just adding in the blueprint of a lost tech. Blueprints get added in just below where I described how to add in a tech.

Ok away for some more testing :)
 

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Well its good to know you got it all figured out BB, from your vast experience as the US.

I wont be figting the USSR, Germany is more the cpable of defeating them My forces will be soley against you and the UK. the UK can bearly contain me, going to get interesting when Japan is throwing its full weight against them and there are no spare UK forces. Infatry means squat BB, its armour and and airpower which counts. To bad your forces have to move acorss the oceans to bad they will be sunk before they get close. Do you really think after what i did to the UK you will do any better. So far around 60 Allied division have been destroyed along with 60-70 ships, all by poor old italy with the lest IC of anyone. Not bad for pissant nation. \

You will just be more allied troops to the slaughter. I rpoven this by past experience this game. Your just talking hot air, ive got the results to back me up, all FDR has is a big mouth. And im going to close it for you.
 

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Whatever...

I can make it at 6:30 eastern but no earlier. :)