New Aussie Game 2008

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Personally im not interested in starting another MOD.

Those rules are designed for the mod IMHO especially regarding to USA not being Human. Japan is also questionable (but i havnt played them). As in Saturday game of this MOD Japs dont have China as ally or puppet and USSR has overun the lot.

There are also changes to peace time modifications and base ic's.

If it's Vanilla HOI with Aussie Rules (8 air Stacks) then im interested, if it is going to be something else ill just stick with the games i have at hand.

 

[mike8472]

Personally im not interested in starting another MOD.

Those rules are designed for the mod IMHO especially regarding to USA not being Human. Japan is also questionable (but i havnt played them). As in Saturday game of this MOD Japs dont have China as ally or puppet and USSR has overun the lot.

There are also changes to peace time modifications and base ic's.

If it's Vanilla HOI with Aussie Rules (8 air Stacks) then im interested, if it is going to be something else ill just stick with the games i have at hand.

Ok thought there were some good ideas there to improve own rules.

 

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Ok thought there were some good ideas there to improve own rules.

I think there are certianly with simple things like fort limits and rocket nuclear dates.

 

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the new rules sugguested by mike are fine. except for the ones at the bottom which involve jap/ usa / su ect these one need to be taken out or edited.

 

[mike8472]

There just sugestions. Not to adopt in whole but a few rules there would certainly help improve our games. These are ones I think could help our games.


Basic rules

0.1: Coastal/land forts level max is 5

0.3: no nuclear weapons till 44
0.4: no rockets or flying bombs till 43

Good trades rules, very historical and realistic.

1.1: The 2nd day of the game the Axis are the first to make trades, later come the Allies
1.2: The first trades already in place before the game starts must be respected until the war within the context of the allowances made in the other rules.
1.3: The trades between GER/SU and USA/JAP must be free and fair till the war or embargo event (for USA)
1.4: The Allies/Comintern is able to cancel some trades when their new factories put their resource growth in the red
1.5: Free trades only between allied countries at war.
1.6 : The Allies may not trade for rares with AI countries that they are not allied to with the exception of deals suggested by the AI itself.
1.8 : No trading, selling or donating VP provinces, unless that province is a core province of the receiving nation

UNITS IN THE FRONT

3.1 : Urban Limit for stacking units is 36 (Realistic. I dont think you could fit more then 36 divisions into one city. Is it realistic to stack 100 divisions into an urban province, i dont think so.
3.2 : Amphibious landing is unlimited
3.3 : No SR with units adjacent to enemy units, I think we all like this one, very fair.
3.4 : Recycling units (disbanding) is allowed only if they aren't already encircled
3.5 : You must supply ALL your OWN divisions, air and fleet in your OWNED provinces (I think rules, 3.5-3.7 are needed to stop players supply exploiting like those greek hackers. It seems fair to me.
3.6 : Expeditionary Force can be given to an ally only when supplying these units is impossible (example Africa Corps in Italian Libya). (Spartan Rule 7.4)
3.7 : Expeditionary forces from minor allies must be returned to those allies if ally is under Military control

I dont have a problem with anything in diplomacy here.

DIPLOMACY

4.1 : No war until Danzig except those wars prompted by events
4.2 : Phony wars are not allowed - when you are able to take the last victory points or annex, do so quickly
4.3 : You must respect peace treaties and non aggression pacts, unless changed by event or otherwise through the AI.
4.4 : When you join one Alliance you must stay in it until the end
4.5 : Human players playing minor countries may not join their parent alliance unless they are at +200 relations with the alliance leader, without exception.
4.6 : No country may GOI any other country.
4.7 : No new alliances with minors until the fall of Czech except by event

We normaly play like this anyway.

INFLUENCING

5.1 : Influencing of opponent player countries is forbidden.
5.2 : Influencing historical minor Allies of the opposing alliance is forbidden, (For Example, UK may not influence Hungary but could influence Nationalist Spain)

I dont think we need the rest of those specific country rules, we have that covered mostly for our own style of game.

The only big issue I have with our rules is what do we all think about "surrender events for human player's" My opinion is they must be accepted other wise there is little point playing as they game becomes a mundane task of taking every VP or destroying every division. Thats not how wars were won. The events are there for a reason, we accept historical events and event which start wars, we reload when we dont get the outcome to some events which we say runins the game. For me this is the same.

 

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Well , me and boof USA if that is ok still ... or will play japan if needed ..
And Boof can be china .

 

[mike8472]

Well , me and boof USA if that is ok still ... or will play japan if needed ..
And Boof can be china .

Probably better being USA if theres two of you. I dont think having a human china working together with a human Japan is very fair, Japan would be to strong.

 

[mike8472]

So we all good for starting the game tuesday night? Say 7pm if we can.

Have we got teams setup? Edit first post G for who is who so far.

I need to know who is on my team as I need to discuss my brillant new operational doctrines developed by the OKH with my axis brothers.

 

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Hi,

I am based in Sydney, aven't played MP HOI2 for some time. If you still have a spare place I would be keen to join. I don't mind whom I play. Let me know if this is okay.

Also I am re staring work on a major modification to HOI2 involving economic changes so as to bring the game into line with accurate 1938 (these are the statistics I have available) manpower, GDP-IC, unit costs etc... The work I did on this some years back made the game really balanced and interesting especially when playing minors (alliances between romania andyugoslavia and the like...), only managed to try it out with two flat mates while at uni however. If anyone has some spare time in a month or so when it is getting closer to completion I would like to try a net game of this mod.

Cheers!

 

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hey von sounds interestin, i always wanted to make a mod which would historically represent IC and mp, regardless of multiplayer balance (1000+ ic usa? lolol) . You need any help, hit me up.

anywhoo the original point of me postin in this thread, any of you bitches up for a game durin a couple of weekdays? So far its all americans, all reliable experienced players tho

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=341812

 

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Hey guys. I can't do tuesday nights. I have been promoted to Long Life manager/3IC of the store. I get the honour of doing duty tuesday nights followed up by a 6.30am start on wednesdays. So Tuesday nights are completely out for me. Every other night of the week should be fine for me except Sundays unless we can get an early start as I have 5am start monday mornings. SE.

P.S. What team am I on? SE.

 

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Vonsson your ideas sound interesting but for another game and tiem maybe.

If your interested in joining us i believe we would need an Axis Minor as we have USA being Coop'd this game.

If your down with that keep your eyes on this thread.

 

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NATIONS
GERMANY = Mike
ITALY = Munster
UK = Major
USSR = Mighty
JAPAN = SE
USA = Gunny
USA.2 = Boof


If someone cant make a session WE DONT PLAY

With exception to 2 USA's of course.

 

[mike8472]

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NATIONS
GERMANY = Mike
ITALY = Munster
UK = Major
USSR = Mighty
JAPAN = SE
USA = Gunny
USA.2 = Boof


If someone cant make a session WE DONT PLAY

With exception to 2 USA's of course.

You put that newb Major as UK, hahaha.

So G you want to go another round as USSR. Lets see if we can replicate our epic battles around moscow in a do or die for either of us, edge of your seat stuff.

Well perhaps we can play say a monday and then a wednesday or thursday, what ever suits the group.

 

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You put that newb Major as UK, hahaha.

So G you want to go another round as USSR. Lets see if we can replicate our epic battles around moscow in a do or die for either of us, edge of your seat stuff.

Well perhaps we can play say a monday and then a wednesday or thursday, what ever suits the group.

Well to be honest im happy to play UK, but i didnt see a preference that he listed. I was to be honest inclined to play Japan but SE is too scared to take you on as USSR.....so......

And seeing as Japan wont be able to pull 300 Soviet Division off the Axis front it should be one hell of a meat grinder.

 

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RAS, SE


The save we played 1 month of last session wont load from save again. The same problem we had a few weeks back when my Hard Drive shiyted itself.

Cueballs having a wee looksy for us a favour but to be honest it looks like there could be something wrong. (theres a bunch of provinces that seem to be unallocated). soo,,,, i dont know when we can play this next.

 

[mike8472]

Well to be honest im happy to play UK, but i didnt see a preference that he listed. I was to be honest inclined to play Japan but SE is too scared to take you on as USSR.....so......

And seeing as Japan wont be able to pull 300 Soviet Division off the Axis front it should be one hell of a meat grinder.

If I remeber correctly Japan only jumped you after your NAP expired. Same thing can happen in this game as our present rules allow Japan to attack the USSR in 1943.

But the USSR wont be around by 1943 so Japan can worry about india, australia and the US.

Well we all know SE dosnt like to play real enemies, always does the easy fighting. Lets the Euro Axis do all the work and take on the entire allied and soviet war efforts and then claims to save the axis by sending some forces over, when hes got no one to fight for half the globe. Haha.

Looking forward to playing again. I have one week off so if yous want to play a few more nights when we can fit it in to get a flying start im ok for it.

 

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when hes got no one to fight for half the globe. Haha.

Knowing SE he will loose Islands and China again just to stab at me. I can almost predict it now.

 

[mike8472]

Knowing SE he will loose Islands and China again just to stab at me. I can almost predict it now.

Well I will be keeping an eye on that no good back stabber after what I heard he did to the axis last game. He better bring his gonads to the game this time and not wimp out on a hard fight.

Rest easy SE with the real adolf in town I will last until 1945 or much later, thats ofcourse if I havnt already won the war by 1942 which is my plan. Poor G dosnt know whats gonna hit him. With the UK out of the way this game (one way or the other the UK will be finished by 1940) the full might of the Axis will descend on the slavic hordes to the east and smite them from this world forever.

Im going to be one nasty Adolf this game, no mercy, no nice playing for the sake of the game. There will only be unrelenting hordes of blood, conquest and pillaging.

If you are not with me you are against me. I will destroy you. This is the end of the allies and commies.

The sith will rule the galaxy, whahahahahaha. :wacko:

 

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RAS, SE


The save we played 1 month of last session wont load from save again. The same problem we had a few weeks back when my Hard Drive shiyted itself.

Cueballs having a wee looksy for us a favour but to be honest it looks like there could be something wrong. (theres a bunch of provinces that seem to be unallocated). soo,,,, i dont know when we can play this next.

Oh dear, let us know when thats fixed.