New article about HOI4

[mdw1985]

He means it's old material but they just published it.

Even that doesn't sound reasonable for me . I can't imagine, that it would take more than two or three days to type an half an hour interview on pc. I once interviewed an old neighbor for three hours for a school thesis (she has been a nurse in berlin during ww2). It took me about 2 days to write it down as a pupil... and i wasn't that pc nerd back in these days on the other side, gaming magazines live from actuality. They need to have always "the freshest" news to keep their readers. Infos, which are 2, 3 or 4 months old, may damage the reputation of the magazine, if changes happen (like from national goals to national focus system etc.). Sadly the media in germany are struggling, also because of the internet and adblock.

 

[FOARP]

Hmmm...you're right. They don't quote him. But i can't imagine, that they interviewed him without asking about the release date. If the release would't be in Q2, they would have written something like "release in Q3" or "release in a few months".

Podcat's been asked this directly in other interviews and simply responded "It'sll be ready when it's ready", or words to that effect. More likely they just put it up because there's no other date that's been announced.

But the info "Q2 on steam" seems pretty reliable to me in the article. AFAIK paradox always pulls a lot ressources together, when a game comes out.

If it was coming out in 1-2 months they would have already announced a release date, be taking pre-orders, be having weekly DDs, have recruited beta testers etc. - they haven't done any of these things.

Furthermore the devs didn't say anything about a delay.

They have told us that the game has just been submitted for Alpha - i.e., at best it has only just entered Alpha. There's just no way it could go from pre-Alpha to release in a couple of months.

Third point is, that the devs don't post a lot in the last time, which tells me, that they work really hard and under pressure to release the game.

I'm sure they are under pressure, but they are also not doing any of the things that they would be doing if the game was coming out soon.

I just deeply hope you're not right about Q3.

The only thing worse than a delayed game is an unfinished one. I much rather wait a little longer to get a finished game, than get an unfinished game, but better than either is to get the game finished on time.

 

[Mannstien]

Yeah, Q2 will not happen without a miracle which is fine by me but considering they are still in Alpha with the time left and no speed up in DD's will probably be end of Q3.

 

[mdw1985]

Podcat's been asked this directly in other interviews and simply responded "It'sll be ready when it's ready", or words to that effect. More likely they just put it up because there's no other date that's been announced.



If it was coming out in 1-2 months they would have already announced a release date, be taking pre-orders, be having weekly DDs, have recruited beta testers etc. - they haven't done any of these things.



They have told us that the game has just been submitted for Alpha - i.e., at best it has only just entered Alpha. There's just no way it could go from pre-Alpha to release in a couple of months.



I'm sure they are under pressure, but they are also not doing any of the things that they would be doing if the game was coming out soon.



The only thing worse than a delayed game is an unfinished one. I much rather wait a little longer to get a finished game, than get an unfinished game, but better than either is to get the game finished on time.

There is a video of gamereactor - just google it, can't paste it with my mobile phone - from march 2015, where they interviewed podcat. His last sentence was "it's still sort of Q2", although he refused to name an exact release date. Just watch it...it's quite nice. This leads me to the point, that the release info from the article here isn't just something they took from anywhere. My guess is, that they have asked him about the release and he still couldn't name the exact date, but still it is Q2. Yeah, they just reached alpha...but why would podcat say something about Q2 in the video if it wasn't possible. And why should a magazine cite a release date out of nowhere, which could bring them many problems if it wasn't true, since a statement from PI, which says "we didn't say that" is not exusting.

Maybe they release it in july, but i can't imagine, it could be much longer.

Btw at the beginning of this month, a game called "star drive 2" appeared for download on steam, while the boxed version is released not before tomorrow. PI could also release the game for download on steam and release a boxed version later. So a release can happen very fast...

 

[Gamer_1745]

PI could also release the game for download on steam and release a boxed version later. So a release can happen very fast...

One little thing, HOI IV is Steam only. I was thinking it would be a June release now I more thinking Aug.

 

[potski]

We believe in you for Q2 PDX Team!

We are now in Q2, already a third of it has gone this weekend. Only nine weeks left. And they haven't started Beta.

Do you believe in Santa Claus as well?

 

[Stenner]

We are now in Q2, already a third of it has gone this weekend. Only nine weeks left. And they haven't started Beta.

Do you believe in Santa Claus as well?

He never fails to deliver.

 

[Axe99]

Do you believe in Santa Claus as well?

So needed a spoiler - imagine all the young 'uns coming onto the forum that have just had their hopes and dreams dashed!



I think the only way they could launch in Q2 now would be without having a beta. Assuming it takes a week or so to get a beta up and running (so it's not going to start until the end of the first week of May if the beta started today) and for a game like HoI, you really need to give people a week or two to actually play it before they understand it enough to give feedback that'll be near useful (beyond really obvious things like crashes and UI oddness, of course), and then a couple of days to filter the feedback, and then a couple of weeks to build it into the engine - so we're already into June before it's likely the devs will have had a chance to integrate any beta feedback into things (and that's going on a very optimistic timetable).

And I think it's safer they launch with a beta than without one, particularly for a game as complex as HoI.

Anyways, I'm off to cry myself to sleep about this whole Santa Claus thing .

 

[Vonboe]

I think It's very telling when both CK2 and EU4's release dates were announced three months before the release.
So my guess, there is at least three months until release

 

[potski]

He never fails to deliver.

But only on 25th December, not Q2. He needs to have a manual sent to the graphics designers and all of the English text sent for translation. Santa's little helpers can't do that. And a release copy needs to be with all of the media 10-14 days before release.

So my 2 cents - for a release date in the last week of Q2 to be possible for a game as complex as HOI, the Beta should have started by Easter. It didn't.

And we know we are not in the final stages because still no weekly DD's.

 

[Caesar15]

I think It's very telling when both CK2 and EU4's release dates were announced three months before the release.
So my guess, there is at least three months until release

I don't recall either of those titles being delayed though.

 

[Johan]

Hmmm...you're right. They don't quote him. But i can't imagine, that they interviewed him without asking about the release date. If the release would't be in Q2, they would have written something like "release in Q3" or "release in a few months". But the info "Q2 on steam" seems pretty reliable to me in the article. AFAIK paradox always pulls a lot ressources together, when a game comes out. Furthermore the devs didn't say anything about a delay. Third point is, that the devs don't post a lot in the last time, which tells me, that they work really hard and under pressure to release the game. I just deeply hope you're not right about Q3.

it is not coming out in q2.

 

[gregor_mendel]

it is not coming out in q2.

No problem here. Take your time fellas.

 

[VampiRos]

Thanks for the info Johan.

At least, i'll enjoy the summer as it should be enjoyed....

 

[Nelfe]

it is not coming out in q2.

No problem, take all time needed

 

[Stenner]

That answers that.

 

[jeep91]

Meanwhile in Q3,
Sorry guys we are pushing it back to Q4,
Q4 rolls around,
Sorry guys we are pushing it back to 2016 Q2..
>.<

 

[Stenner]

Meanwhile in Q3,
Sorry guys we are pushing it back to Q4,
Q4 rolls around,
Sorry guys we are pushing it back to 2016 Q2..
>.<

I'm not trying to be a bad sport about it, but this is finally showing me why they changed the policy to not reveal games until after alpha, my first hint was all the iterations about the battleplan system (and I'm quite happy with the rough one that was in place during the stream with Quill, even though it was stated that it wasn't feature complete).

But this 2nd push back is taking it to the Nth degree (I'm personally not mad about it but I feel like it would irk the devs, and probably a lot of people), and can clearly see why this new policy was adopted (this and that game that got scrapped).

 

[jeep91]

I'm not trying to be a bad sport about it, but this is finally showing me why they changed the policy to not reveal games until after alpha, my first hint was all the iterations about the battleplan system (and I'm quite happy with the rough one that was in place during the stream with Quill, even though it was stated that it wasn't feature complete).

But this 2nd push back is taking it to the Nth degree (I'm personally not mad about it but I feel like it would irk the devs, and probably a lot of people), and can clearly see why this new policy was adopted (this and that game that got scrapped).

Agreed

 

[mdw1985]

it is not coming out in q2.

Thank you for the info johan! I think this will end all release discussions now and thanks to the dev team off course, who are working very hard to realize the game!!!