Never really played HOI franchise....

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So I have owned every single game of HOI but always found either there was no tutorial or they were so bad and unhelpful that I couldn't figure out the game to really enjoy it. With IV coming out is it at all worth using youtube to learn the last version of the game or will the newest edition be so different that it wont really make a difference....
 

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I am in the same situation, I come from CK2 and EU IV, but I tried HoI 3 for a little while, and had a lot of trouble making heads or tails of it..

For all you in the know about HoI 4, do you think it will be a bit easier for a nub like me to get a grasp on the 4th edition of the game, or should I let it fly by in silence ?
 

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HOI4 appears to be a lot more intuitive to learn. HOI3 had a lot of micro, and although useful to an experienced player i know the OOB really confused a lot of new players myself included.

i'd say play it if you enjoy it, and if you don't wait for HOI IV and buy it if you're interested because it should be a lot more easy to learn while also being more complex to play
 
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From my HoI3 experiences, and having watched every World War Wednesday/Two-esday (for HoI4), HoI4 will be significantly easier to learn than older iterations due to a hopefully better tutorial and definitely a better UI/smoother gameplay.

(Having also played Vicky II, and from what I know about CK2 and EU4 and Stellaris, I have a sneaking suspicion that this entire newer generation of Paradox games has much friendlier UIs and a lot of poor design features cut out. For example, Vicky's constant game pausing pop-ups, and HoI3's tutorial being taught by Hitler.)
 
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From my HoI3 experiences, and having watched every World War Wednesday/Two-esday (for HoI4), HoI4 will be significantly easier to learn than older iterations due to a hopefully better tutorial and definitely a better UI/smoother gameplay.

(Having also played Vicky II, and from what I know about CK2 and EU4 and Stellaris, I have a sneaking suspicion that this entire newer generation of Paradox games has much friendlier UIs and a lot of poor design features cut out. For example, Vicky's constant game pausing pop-ups, and HoI3's tutorial being taught by Hitler.)
The removal of customisable pop ups, including pop up and pause is one of my main complaints about Stellaris, I also suspect that will be true in hoi4.
 

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In any case, I deceided to give it a chance, and preordered the colonel edition after watching a bit of youtube videoes and such.

The UI looks a lot less intimidating than HoI 3.