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actually, his techs are BETTER than mine. His religious situation sucks, though, while my narrowmindedness has helped me in correcting that.

(And I now have manu's too :D )
 

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Avernite said:
His religious situation sucks, though, while my narrowmindedness has helped me in correcting that.

If you mean the -20% tax income for Konfucianism, then yes....

otherwise.... :D
 

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Next war not far off? This shall be very interesting. I don't even fell I could pick a winner. China has the size but the OE has the tech.

My bet goes to China. Unless of course my big heroes, the Mughals, twart the Ottoman's plans.
 

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Excellent to hear the "big war" isn't far off. Both of you are still doing well so it looks to be an even fight for the moment.
 

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my badboy is finally dropping, so I might go on to diploannexation a bit more ;)


Ánd the Mughals are done for, Babur is slain by Delhi and both Delhi and Gujarat are a tad stronger than they are. Only Chinese intervention in India can possibly boost their strength.
 

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Woah crazy two I'm curious when you really start fighting each other. you two mob up the world as if they weren't even defending themself
 

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Iche_Bins said:
Woah crazy two I'm curious when you really start fighting each other. you two mob up the world as if they weren't even defending themself
hmm... well....

losses1539.jpg
 

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ForzaA said:
...well, it shows up for me :confused:
...and I'm using the same adress "type" for all images :confused:
"http://home.student.utwente.nl\c.h.c.m.tmannetje\Paradox_forum\China1509.jpg"
It's the different slashes after the first two "//" - I don't see the image in your post, but I did in mine. If I view the post in IE I see it though, so I guess Firefox is more picky about which slash is used in urls.

Anyways, I look forward to the coming struggles. More specifically I look forward to China being able to focus their strength while some European pest decides to stab the Ottomans in the back during the coming war. :p
 

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Schlieffen said:
Anyways, I look forward to the coming struggles. More specifically I look forward to China being able to focus their strength while some European pest decides to stab the Ottomans in the back during the coming war. :p

I suspect as much, yes....

Which is why, in all the Mughal wars, about 30k was stationed in Constantinople. ;)

But now, finally, I am getting armies near the support limit, so I don't get dow-ed anymore. But indeed, if the Chinese alter that situation...
 

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Actually, how far west does the Chinese fog of war stretch? Is it time for a rule forbidding the Chinese from allying with European nations? :p

Really I think China has a pretty distinct advantage in this regard, and look forward to seeing how you (well, one of you ;) ) deal with it. Maybe playing the defensive will be the best bet, relying on attrition to do the work that your soldiers, occupied on other fronts, won't be able to.
(And no, that doesn't mean I'm rooting for the Ottomans. I just want the fight to drag out for as long as possible instead of an overwhelming victory. :D )
 

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overwhelming victory? Not if I manage to take the Mughal or Steppe territories. There's no way ANY army can pass through that and be strong enough to defeat the armies that can be raised in Persia or eastern Anatolia.


And I also have the nice advantage that, if I have time, I could go snatch some maps and then go annex Aztecs and the like, without costing any Badboy! :D
 

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I think that the Ottomans have the land advantage at this time... Due to their slider being (full?) land, and mine being heavily naval... MP capacity is thus near equal, but their troops are better (and presumably cheaper) ... on the other hand, as soon as I can get my hands on an explorer or something, I might make the trip around africa (or america) and pay Istanbul a visit ;)