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france is dead , but prussia looks dangerous especially with the bulk of there forces in the middle of our most beloved belgian empire 
any plans for a navy?
and hows the domestic situation btw?
any plans for a navy?
and hows the domestic situation btw?
Domestic blah! When you're a country with World Conquering asperations there's no TIME for worry on the domestic situation! All the would-be rebels are soldiers anyway! It's like exporting all your rebels! It's a perfect idea!
I doubt your ability to finish France off... we all know about the those legendary French and how well they hold out in wars when the odds are against them...
I doubt your ability to finish France off... we all know about the those legendary French and how well they hold out in wars when the odds are against them...
WC is an entirely different style of playing. You don't have to care about prestige, badboy or economy. Just conquer until there's nothing left to conquer and try to keep the rebels at bay.
I’ve received numerous comments and questions regarding how things are progressing on the home front, in particular with the economy, and I can tell you it’s not good.
This bothers me on several levels.
1. In my Swedish AAR I paid zero attention to my economy, and thus suffered 5 or 6 bankruptcies. The bankruptcies were funny, and brought a lot of comments from the readers, but I really don’t want to repeat that trend in this AAR
2. One of my goals in writing a gameplay AAR is that it would be somewhat educational to a new player. By that I mean I hope that people can read it and learn some of the various trick and nuances of the game. I am confident that I can show someone how to run a military campaign in Victoria, but I’d like to show that I can at the very least balance a budget.
3. If I can balance my budget in Vicky maybe there’s hope for me in the real world
Having said all that, it was becoming increasingly apparent to me that bankruptcy was inevitable (the cost of building and maintaining these huge armies is just too much at this stage of the game). So for the last year I have been preparing for that eventuality.
Here’s what you loose in bankruptcy
1. All your money
2. All your stockpiled resources
3. Half of all your factories (this ones the killer)
Of course you also loose all your debt, and take a huge prestige hit.
What you don’t loose are your soldiers, and ships
With this in mind I gathered all the resources I could for one giant shopping spree. My plan was to build as many factories as possible to offset the ones I would loose. I then expanded my railway as much as possible, built a navy and recruited another 18 cavalry divisions.
All this was purchased on August 29,1844 the same day as the start of the new war with France. Of course on August 30th…
This will be my one and only banruptcy (I think)
This bothers me on several levels.
1. In my Swedish AAR I paid zero attention to my economy, and thus suffered 5 or 6 bankruptcies. The bankruptcies were funny, and brought a lot of comments from the readers, but I really don’t want to repeat that trend in this AAR
2. One of my goals in writing a gameplay AAR is that it would be somewhat educational to a new player. By that I mean I hope that people can read it and learn some of the various trick and nuances of the game. I am confident that I can show someone how to run a military campaign in Victoria, but I’d like to show that I can at the very least balance a budget.
3. If I can balance my budget in Vicky maybe there’s hope for me in the real world
Having said all that, it was becoming increasingly apparent to me that bankruptcy was inevitable (the cost of building and maintaining these huge armies is just too much at this stage of the game). So for the last year I have been preparing for that eventuality.
Here’s what you loose in bankruptcy
1. All your money
2. All your stockpiled resources
3. Half of all your factories (this ones the killer)
Of course you also loose all your debt, and take a huge prestige hit.
What you don’t loose are your soldiers, and ships
With this in mind I gathered all the resources I could for one giant shopping spree. My plan was to build as many factories as possible to offset the ones I would loose. I then expanded my railway as much as possible, built a navy and recruited another 18 cavalry divisions.
All this was purchased on August 29,1844 the same day as the start of the new war with France. Of course on August 30th…
This will be my one and only banruptcy (I think)
soonerborn0524 said:
Believe it or not I am actually trying not to be reptitive.
o This war with France, however was planned for from the begining as it is the only way to get my armies back to Belgium. Of course I'm more than willing to capitalize on the situation and take a few extra provinces in the process.
Quirinus308 said:
Hehehe please by all means, by all means
.Emphasis on the budget of course . Quirinus308 said:
Thanks for the heads up on the consequences of it.
Quirinus308 said:
Oh? how so? By building double the factories you have now so your more or less the same before the shopping spree in anticipation of the bankruptcy? I have grown curious of your economic plans.
Yeah thats one of the things I concentrated on first was to stablize my economy before going to war
The Second French War
There are times in every AAR when you must include an update or chapter that is not really exciting but is necessary to fill space. This is one such update (sorry).
Following the Spanish-Belgian Conflict of 1842, the Belgian army was trapped in the Belgian controlled Spain, while France was refusing to allow the Belgian armies to pass through their land. Belgium decided to go through France anyway.
There were only a handful of French divisions left from the previous war, and needless to say the Belgian met little to no opposition in their march home.
By the end of November, three months after the war started, the Belgians were once again in Paris.
Meanwhile back in Burma, operations were coming to a close.
The final annexation of Burma occurred on January 11, 1845
The French for some reason seemed reluctant to surrender as it was four months after the fall of Paris, and with most of the country occupied before they finally offered a peace deal.
This left Belgium with even worse borders than before.
There are times in every AAR when you must include an update or chapter that is not really exciting but is necessary to fill space. This is one such update (sorry).
Following the Spanish-Belgian Conflict of 1842, the Belgian army was trapped in the Belgian controlled Spain, while France was refusing to allow the Belgian armies to pass through their land. Belgium decided to go through France anyway.
There were only a handful of French divisions left from the previous war, and needless to say the Belgian met little to no opposition in their march home.
By the end of November, three months after the war started, the Belgians were once again in Paris.
Meanwhile back in Burma, operations were coming to a close.
The final annexation of Burma occurred on January 11, 1845
The French for some reason seemed reluctant to surrender as it was four months after the fall of Paris, and with most of the country occupied before they finally offered a peace deal.
This left Belgium with even worse borders than before.
A Few Little Issues
Following the Bankruptcy of 1844, the Belgian prestige went from around 240 to -900. This upset me (obviously), but was not as big a deal as you might think due to the fact that it would now allow me to declare war at a cost of only 1 prestige point (unless of course I was violating a peace deal).
The thing that does concern me is my budget. I built a lot of extra factories the day before going bankrupt which means they won’t be coming on line until Aug of 1845, but here is my budget screen as of March 1845
This situation has me more than a little concerned as I see little reason to hope that my new factories will increase my budget by 400 pounds.
I have several plans that I will begin implementing once the new factories come online, but for now I want to clean up the borders a little.
My goals in this war are several.
1. To clean up the borders
2. To capture the French factories (hopefully this will help my budget)
3. To capture more French pops (one of my national cultures)
This should be my last war with the French for a little while (I don’t want to keep losing 100 prestige for violating a peace agreement)
Following the Bankruptcy of 1844, the Belgian prestige went from around 240 to -900. This upset me (obviously), but was not as big a deal as you might think due to the fact that it would now allow me to declare war at a cost of only 1 prestige point (unless of course I was violating a peace deal).
The thing that does concern me is my budget. I built a lot of extra factories the day before going bankrupt which means they won’t be coming on line until Aug of 1845, but here is my budget screen as of March 1845
This situation has me more than a little concerned as I see little reason to hope that my new factories will increase my budget by 400 pounds.
I have several plans that I will begin implementing once the new factories come online, but for now I want to clean up the borders a little.
My goals in this war are several.
1. To clean up the borders
2. To capture the French factories (hopefully this will help my budget)
3. To capture more French pops (one of my national cultures)
This should be my last war with the French for a little while (I don’t want to keep losing 100 prestige for violating a peace agreement)
Your last bankruptcy - you think, or you hope calling upon Johan for mercy at your keyboard?
I quite like your borders...
I quite like your borders...
Terraferma said:Hehehe please by all means, by all means
Oh? how so? By building double the factories you have now so your more or less the same before the shopping spree in anticipation of the bankruptcy? I have grown curious of your economic plans.
Knowing that I am going to go bankrupt anyway, why not build as much as possible before the bankruptcy occurs. IIRC I had around 12 to 15 factories, and I built abound the same number. As I understand it when you go bankrupt you will loose half of your factories (including the ones under construction)
As to the soldiers and navy, I was able to buy them with deficit spending, and once the bankruptcy occured I still had the units, so in essence I got them for free. Of course I lack the income to support the military I have now, so it will probably be worse once those units are ready for deployment.
The other thing I spent money on was the rail system. Unfortunately I ran out of the resources needed before I could make a huge impact in this area.
I am at present gathering the resources for a major expansion of the rail system, but at present I haven't started the project yet.
Economic expansion in Vicky is a tricky thing because you need to expand to grow, but if you grow to fast, then you can't afford the expansion. I'm not even a year away from my bankruptcy, and I'm already in debt again (and it's only going to get worse)
Quirinus:
It may be a slog to keep up this pace, but do keep it up. This AAR is indeed acting as a tutorial: for how to use cavalry, how not to abuse an economy, how to dole out tasty bites of irony and sarcasm....
Seriously, you can't over-explain things to us newbies.
It may be a slog to keep up this pace, but do keep it up. This AAR is indeed acting as a tutorial: for how to use cavalry, how not to abuse an economy, how to dole out tasty bites of irony and sarcasm....
Seriously, you can't over-explain things to us newbies.
The Third French War
The Third French War was supposed to be a relatively quick affair with the goal of gaining the necessary provinces to gain complete control of the French states (and thus the factories)
The French however were rather stubborn, and continually refused the sensible offerings made by the Belgian King. In the end it looked like it would require another occupation of France to drive up the war score, and bring the French to the negotiating table.
Finally with 2/3 of the country under Belgian control the French finally surrendered. From the French perspective they have lost about 25% of their core provinces.
Next update will be a state of the empire update
The Third French War was supposed to be a relatively quick affair with the goal of gaining the necessary provinces to gain complete control of the French states (and thus the factories)
The French however were rather stubborn, and continually refused the sensible offerings made by the Belgian King. In the end it looked like it would require another occupation of France to drive up the war score, and bring the French to the negotiating table.
Finally with 2/3 of the country under Belgian control the French finally surrendered. From the French perspective they have lost about 25% of their core provinces.
Next update will be a state of the empire update
The State of the Empire
Greater Belgium is looking better, but there is still this ugly blue spot in the middle of the sea of burgundy.
In the Far East our expansion is probably maxed out, as most of the remaining uncivs are protected by the British. There is of course Korea and Japan to the north, and both are tempting targets.
In the Caribbean we had gained control of the Spanish colonies, and the French colony in Guyana. For some reason it looks like Haiti should be colored burgundy.
But the real issue is, and will be for some time to come the economy…
By now our factories have come online and we are loosing even more money than we were before. This calls for more drastic action (and another update)
Greater Belgium is looking better, but there is still this ugly blue spot in the middle of the sea of burgundy.
In the Far East our expansion is probably maxed out, as most of the remaining uncivs are protected by the British. There is of course Korea and Japan to the north, and both are tempting targets.
In the Caribbean we had gained control of the Spanish colonies, and the French colony in Guyana. For some reason it looks like Haiti should be colored burgundy.
But the real issue is, and will be for some time to come the economy…
By now our factories have come online and we are loosing even more money than we were before. This calls for more drastic action (and another update)
soonerborn0524 said:
Funny you should ask. There are numerous directions to go from here. For instance…
The USA is in the middle of the Mexican-American War, and the war exhaustion is getting up there. My navy is coming online now, so I could sail over there, capture Washington, and take what they give me.
As I mentioned earlier Korea and Japan both represent extremely rich targets
And of course that blue spot is really an eye sore. At present my armies are strong enough to take on Prussia, although they are out of position.
Of course my biggest problem at present will be to solve my economic issues, and for that I have a plan.
Which of course I will explain in my next update.
The Economic Plan
I have resolved to not allow another bankruptcy to occur like what happened in a certain Swedish AAR, and so here is my plan of attack (in no particular order).
1. Go after the most populace uncivs and annex them with the goal being to increase my tax base as well as increasing my RGO exports. This list includes (but is not limited to) Korea, Japan, Persia, and Egypt
2. Expand factories and rail systems with the goal of producing greater revenues. This of course will actually put us further in debt, but will hopefully produce greater revenue in the long run.
3. Attack the richest nations, but rather than going after provinces demand war indemnities. This list of course includes the UK, Russia, and China.
My goal is that the war indemnities will keep the economy afloat until technology and expansion allows the Belgian economy to become self sufficient.
I have resolved to not allow another bankruptcy to occur like what happened in a certain Swedish AAR, and so here is my plan of attack (in no particular order).
1. Go after the most populace uncivs and annex them with the goal being to increase my tax base as well as increasing my RGO exports. This list includes (but is not limited to) Korea, Japan, Persia, and Egypt
2. Expand factories and rail systems with the goal of producing greater revenues. This of course will actually put us further in debt, but will hopefully produce greater revenue in the long run.
3. Attack the richest nations, but rather than going after provinces demand war indemnities. This list of course includes the UK, Russia, and China.
My goal is that the war indemnities will keep the economy afloat until technology and expansion allows the Belgian economy to become self sufficient.