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The amount of negative stability popups is ridiculous! I have churches in all of my provinces, some extra funding towards stability, and a 4 star Artist as well. I get so many popups with negative stability that I haven't been higher than +1 stability in over 60 years time now. I haven't done any wars, and I usually take other negative options in popups to avoid additional stability loss, but in like a third of them the other options are so painful I have to go with a negative stability loss. The thing is though that the sheer amount of these popups is just incredible!
 

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How long does it take for you to regain a point of stability with full investment in it? Stab investment like most other investments should pretty much be all or nothing (minus anything you need to mint).
 

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Full investment in stability is 32 gold, which changed the required time from October 1553 to January 1549. Currently in November 1543 and I just reached +1 stability, which is the highest I've been in 80 years now. Hopefully this time it'll go up, but if I know this right, I'll be back at -2 again soon.
 

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Yep, figured. Now I'm back at -2 again even though I've been running full stability investment for 10 years. One thing's for sure: there were a lot of comets in the 16th century.

I'm giving up investing in stability at all now. It's just pointless when the game keeps telling me I'm supposed to be at -3.
 

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It shouldn't take that many years to increase stability by one if you haven't expanded much. Do you have a lot of provinces that were hit by the reformation? That will make the stability cost for those provinces skyrocket.

Consider the church attendance idea as well as having enough merchants in the Mediterranean centers of trade to be considered trading in wine. If it's because you have a lot of heretic provinces consider the ecumenism idea or converting.
 

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I'm not trading in wine and my serfdom is at -2 admittedly. Though I do think there are way too many negative stability popups. It's not that I find the stability increases too hard to obtain from a gameplay point of view, but all these popups are way exaggerated. -1 stability from popups every 4 years on average through the last 80 years. That's just silly. And that is not counting all popups that I've chosen other options in. Had I gone with the negative stability options in those as well then I'd be at a constant -2 or -3.
 

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The problem with stability arent that big as it seems to, my country (over 300 provinces) regains one stab within 6-10 years and even overextention and western influences arent big deal.
Just go narrowinded, church attendance day, keep away from war exhaustion (that's the most messy one), try to gain control over Papacy, a bit later build a bunch of catherdals as well. You should be given events such as church mobilises the (people? - dont remember) or saint proclaimed.

Otherwise, if really all these popus are so common, you are really unlucky ruler...
 

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It's because the way stability is handled in EU3 sucks. Even if you're playing as an iron-fisted regime with max serfdom and max narrowmindedness, it's still all too easy to have negative stability most of the time if you have more than, say, ten provinces.
 

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Nah, Stability is mainly dependant on your income, if you dont trade and all in all are a poor hellhole you can expect stabcosts of above 2-3 years. But as a normal country with a decent ecconomy you should have a stabspped (stab regained per year) or upwards of 200%. If you want to look at how such stuff is usually done look at multiplayer statistics, its always a helpful way to find one's own mistakes.
 

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Full investment in stability is 32 gold, which changed the required time from October 1553 to January 1549. Currently in November 1543
So your stability cost is something on the order of 2000 ducats? That seems rather high for Sweden; their stab cost in 1399 is only 356. How many provinces do you own?

EDIT: Also, just to make sure, what version are you playing?
 

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Yeah, I invest everything into stability when I lose stab +3 too. 6 years is pretty long... but then the Nordic lands are quite poor. It's all about maximizing the economic output relative to the number of provinces you own. You can get big, and still have a low stability recovery time if you're filthy rich. Playing as Venice, it currently takes me 4 months to up my stability from 2 to 3, and that's with 250 provinces.
 

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Yay I finally reached +3 after about 120 years. I adopted the -33% stability cost national idea and then I got three +1 stability popups in like 5 years time (which is what I got in total in like 150 years prior). I managed to go from -3 to +3 in about 10 years thanks to this.

The reason the stability costs were so high were protestants rising around my country, but I only had this issue in the last 40 years or so.

Now for hoping the comets will stay away!

EDIT: I am playing the latest version.
 

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And here we go again! Popup frenzy and I'm back at -2 in my now religiously unified country. Seriously, I don't think the developers thought this out very well. It's just way too often these come up. :(
 

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There's an event that gives +2 stability if you have a 5 or 6 star advisor. It gives other bonuses too. It fires once per advisor type, it it can be worthwhile to change advisors just to wait for it fire. I usually time decisions that I know cause a stab hit (ie: changing government type, national ideas, or starting a war without casus belli) with those events.
 
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