Negative population, zero manpower?

[REgentle]

Found myself in a situation very similar to that reported in this thread: I've been doing a nomad WC/pillage-all, and at some point while I wasn't looking, my max manpower (sorry for the mislabel, NOT population) went negative in the display, and the huge 200k stack of unraised manpower I'd been sitting on disappeared into thin air.

I haven't been documenting or exploring the intricacies as much as Einbein did in his thread, so that's about all I have at the moment.

 

[REgentle]

At least in my case, this in practice means that none of my horde units replenish, but I'm still paying for them like they were. Though my population appears to have stabilized at around 3.3 million, my (spare) manpower remains at 0. Disbanding horde units doesn't make the manpower tick up. Haven't checked what effects it has on population, like whether they just disappear or what.

The practical implications of all that are relatively inconsequential, because I've pillaged every holding on the map other than my holy sites/the tengri church and the camps of my khans (albeit I'm planning to absorb all the clans right before I export to EU4 just for fun), and while I'm running a 500+ gold deficit I'm sitting on a 280k+ gold hoard. But anyway.
E: just realized the obvious, that by turning off horde reinforcement the cost shrank. I'm good at ck2

 

[[Arthur-PDX]]

Hey,

We actually already have a ticket for the issue causing these sorts of situations (negative Pop, Manpower etc...), but thanks for the reminder.
We'll try to get it fixed ASAP, since it screws with WC playthrough 100%, but it's no a quick fix either... if only every fix could be an EZ fix...


Arthur

 

[SaintPetersbourg]

So, [Arthur-PDX], is this ever going to be fixed?

 

[[Arthur-PDX]]

So, [Arthur-PDX], is this ever going to be fixed?

Dunno, but I can say that's it's not super high prio, as this is an old bug from an "old" expansion and, of course, we prioritize fixing issues of the most recent/current ones. Priorization also depends on fix complexity/time and other stuff.

That said, we still do check older issues punctually, but yeah.


Arthur