Need some help with keeping courtiers in my court

[Extreme Unction]

Okay, apparently I do not fully understand the mechanics involved in who can be on my council.

I am playing the Sunni Caliphate. I have a dude with Martial 23. Obviously, I want him as my Marshal, so I appoint him.

Later, my son comes of age and starts pestering me for a fiefdom. So I grant him a county.

And my Marshal with Martial 23 goes *poof* out of my council. Apparently because he was the baron of a city in the county, and now that my son is the ruler of that county, the Marshal is his direct vassal, not mine.

First off: I'm the freakin' Caliph and I'm in charge. I should be able to say "You're still my Marshal, homecheese."

Secondly: Since that doesn't work, what are my options here?

 

[icon41gimp]

Secondly: Since that doesn't work, what are my options here?

Revoke your son's title and don't give away counties that hold landed vassals you want on your council?

 

[Extreme Unction]

Revoke your son's title and don't give away counties that hold landed vassals you want on your council?

Is there a way to get the Marshal into my court that doesn't involve giving him a full County?

 

[barny]

If he owns land, he can only be in the council of his liege. So you have to be his liege, one way or the other.

 

[Extreme Unction]

If he owns land, he can only be in the council of his liege. So you have to be his liege, one way or the other.

And if he doesn't own land, it's nearly impossible to simply invite him to court.

Opinion of you: ++
Opinion of their liege: ---
No reason to move: ---
Base reluctance: --

<shakes ph1st>

 

[barny]

If someone doesn't own land he normally only joins your court, if he has either a claim, that you might press or if he hates the guts of his liege and likes you a lot.

 

[Lorehead]

You could give him some land, making him your own direct vassal.