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SilentJay321

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Hello all,

Just some basic info, I just bought this game on steam sale. I got the $40 version with a bunch of expansion packs. Now...I played the walkthrough and got decimated later on due to succession issues. I read some quick guides and it suggested playing as Ireland for a first play.

I started in 1066 and went to Dublin, Ireland to start. What struck me as odd is that none of Ireland showed up as Dutchies like they did in an online video I saw someone else make. I ended up getting granted the land mass (I want to call it a county, but I'm not sure that's the right term directly to the South of Dublin which borders wales and can be walked across due to a succession.

Someone immediately declared war, which I won, and I took their land holdings somewhere not on Ireland, no idea where. Now my demanse was 3/2. I used the extra troops I could muster to conquer the land mass directly to my left, and then my demanse was 4/2. I could not create any titles at this point, and checked the dejure dutchies to see if the problem had fixed itself, it had not. I promptly gave away the two new land masses I had to my vasals. To my surprise, I was not their liege lord!

Can someone please explain to me how I am supposed to takeover and maintain land masses when trying to conquer Ireland? Pleas understand I only have about 10 hours of experience with this game, and don't want to give it up, but all the guides I try to read are so non-noob friendly, and videos I watch on youtube don't seem to apply to the current patch and or DLC I have activated.
 

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Do you have all the DLCs? Which ones do you have or not have?

Understand feudal hierachy first. As Count, you can only have baronial vassals. As Duke, you can have Count vassals. As King, Duke vassals, and as Emperor, King vassals. What you've done is given away Counties without creating a Duchy title for yourself first. If you have created a Duchy title, those County titles would be your vassals.

Most likely the Duchy titles in Ireland haven't been created yet. To do so, you'll need to meet requirements in terms of holding de-jure Counties and some money, piety payout.

Usually pay attention to the notifications on the top of the screen. There'll be one that notifies you that a Title can be created.
 

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Like I said, I have all the DLC that came with the steam sale. I don't have charlamagne, or a few of the others. Why haven't the dutchies been created yet? Like I said, when I try to click on Dejure dutchies, none show up, looks like all of Ireland are independent almost. I don't have the option of creating a Dutchy title for Meath like I saw on a youtube video. What do I do with excess counties if I can't create a dutchy?
 

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Ok, so I reloaded the save file and was able to make a Petty Kingdom. Can I still have count vassals now or no?
Yes. "Petty King" is nomenclature used by some cultures in the game (mainly British/Celtic and Nordic) for independent dukes. Duke outranks count so they can have count vassals.
 

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Once you become Duke / Petty King/ High Chief, do take note of a new mechanic, Vassal Limit.

Exceeding the limit reduces their levies contribution as well as their income to their liege. There's also a risk of vassals declaring independence upon succession.
 

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I recommend you to read some of the CKIIwiki pages to fully understand the feudal system in CKII:
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The feudal system
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