need help with next DD?

[Oakfan]

Just a suggestion, perhaps throw a poll out (three or four topics you are ready to discuss) at the conclusion of each DD in order to start work on the next topic of the following DD. Saves time with meeting to discuss the next DD as well as satisfies the player base that read the forum religiously. You still control the content being delivered, yet satisfy base.

 

[Axe99]

I think one of the issues is that they can't show material until it's been developed enough to be final 'enough' to be ready for a DD - so even if we polled 100% for Battle Plans in the next DD, they might not have finished balancing/finalising it, and couldn't show it. Deffo wouldn't hurt to see interest, but I think we'd find that there'd be interest in pretty much everything, we're a voracious bunch when it comes to HoI4 info .

 

[safe-keeper]

we're a voracious bunch when it comes to HoI4 info .

Problem is, due to certain immature or downright irrational responses they have been getting (even with huge red banners screaming "This is not done!"), they don't dare show off as much WIP stuff as they did initially, so even though we're closer to release we're also seeing less content .

 

[Daelyn75]

Problem is, due to certain immature or downright irrational responses they have been getting (even with huge red banners screaming "This is not done!"), they don't dare show off as much WIP stuff as they did initially, so even though we're closer to release we're also seeing less content .

Sad but true.

 

[justin6477]

Problem is, due to certain immature or downright irrational responses they have been getting (even with huge red banners screaming "This is not done!"), they don't dare show off as much WIP stuff as they did initially, so even though we're closer to release we're also seeing less content .

I think, or at least hope, that this could be ameliorated by giving a bit more detail than "x is not finished". For example, if showing a build UI image that also shows a part of the map, and the map is wrong, is the map area still WiP? The UI? Both? Neither really, but it's WiP because it could change just because? I realize that the devs can't always tell us how firm a detail is, but I think it would temper things a bit so people don't go off on a rant about how x, y, and z are wrong then those three items are just placeholders.

 

[Axe99]

@ Safe-keeper - totally agree.

I think, or at least hope, that this could be ameliorated by giving a bit more detail than "x is not finished". For example, if showing a build UI image that also shows a part of the map, and the map is wrong, is the map area still WiP? The UI? Both? Neither really, but it's WiP because it could change just because? I realize that the devs can't always tell us how firm a detail is, but I think it would temper things a bit so people don't go off on a rant about how x, y, and z are wrong then those three items are just placeholders.

But then you have a DD that's three times as long as what we're getting as they explain where everything is at. I think we just have to be patient - designing a game is an iterative process, it's not a case of 'it could just change because', but rather when they review/balance/test it could change because it doesn't work as they'd planned/they missed something (the game/world is huge, it's pretty tricky getting everything right first time and they'll notice and fix things as they go along) - but they won't notice it until they notice it, so to speak, but there's still a stack of testing and balancing to do, so there's a good chance it will be noticed (fog of war's a good example - it's a bit darker than they'd like at the moment* as they haven't got to the stage of refining it).

* As of when we saw it last at least .

 

[Kadanz]

I think one of the issues is that they can't show material until it's been developed enough to be final 'enough' to be ready for a DD - so even if we polled 100% for Battle Plans in the next DD, they might not have finished balancing/finalising it, and couldn't show it. Deffo wouldn't hurt to see interest, but I think we'd find that there'd be interest in pretty much everything, we're a voracious bunch when it comes to HoI4 info .

We need to be kept fed or we'll become vicious and start assuming the worst.

 

[Oakfan]

Good points all.

I think we will get irrational response, even without a poll in place, for the DD. That is always guaranteed. Also the polled DD are created by the Devs, meaning they will list ONLY topics they are ready to discuss. The polled DD's are not open for debate.