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Finally catch up again just in time to watch the opening moves!
Great updates, jwolf, if I only had a time to follow it more regulary...

Well, better late than never.
*Wolfhound slaps Duke of Wellington around a bit with a large trout.* :p
 

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Whoot! I made it back from vacation in time for the war. Great updates, jwolf.

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Hooray! Actual gameplay delicio-rama!

Ahem. Got a little carried away there.

It's good to see the game start, though. And a nice, seamless transition from history-book to what-if stuff. Good luck in showing us what these Templars are made of!

Not really related to the game or the story, but did Pope Martin V really have that bad a reputation, basically from the moment he was elected? Did he ignore all those calls for reform? Just curious.
 

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...did Pope Martin V really have that bad a reputation, basically from the moment he was elected? Did he ignore all those calls for reform? Just curious.

I may have overstated it a bit, and his attitude was normal for Popes of the time, but yes, that's pretty much right.

The last chapter featured, among other things, the assassination of Jean the Fearless of Burgundy by the Dauphin's henchmen, presumably in retaliation for Jean's own murder of Louis of Orleans some years earlier. Stnylan brought up the point of just what the Dauphin thought he was accomplishing. The usual answer, so far as I know, is that it was pure spiteful revenge, which quickly pushed Burgundy into England's grasp until Charles settled with Jean's son Philippe during the 1430s.

However, there may be another answer, although I admit this is highly speculative. Charles's mother Queen Isabella was well known for being unfaithful. Indeed there were widely reported doubts as to the legitimacy of her children, including Charles. Charles was born at a time when the principal lover of the Queen was none other than Louis of Orleans, the king's brother. So -- it is just possible that Charles murdered Jean in the belief that he was personally avenging his own father's murder.

In game, there was no treaty of Troyes: the English and French just patched things up with a short truce after the annexation of Orleans, very much in the tradition of the HYW. And similarly, several years later France had Jeanne d'Arc but this made no difference in game play or outcome as far as I could tell.

I have a technical problem, unfortunately, with my brother's gallery page on his website (where I store my screenshots). He says I should be able to put more photos there, but I can't. He's pretty good at this sort of thing, so in time I am confident he will fix it up for me, but for now I can't put in my pictures, sorry. Eventually, probably after I get back from vacation, I'll put in the first screenshot here. It will show western Europe, centered on France, at the time of the outbreak of Navarre's first war in 1421.

Navarre's prime target in this war is the French province of Guyenne, just east of Gascony in SW France. If you are unfamiliar with this part of the EU map, suffice it to say that at the beginning of the GC Navarre and France are not adjacent. France can attack Navarre (Bearn) by sea, at least in principle, while Navarre has no port, let alone any ships. Neither side can attack the other by land without military access through England or Aragon. Fortunately, it just so happened that the brother of the King of Aragon was none other than the son-in-law of the King of Navarre. :D

And now, following the demands of my readers, cry havoc and let loose the Templars!
 

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Chapter 49: The War For Guyenne

August 1421


Pamplona

Messengers departed Pamplona with the news of Navarre's declaration of war against Auvergne. On one side was an alliance of Aragon, Castile, Navarre, and the Papal States; on the other, France, Scotland, Lorraine, Bourbonnais, Provence, and Auvergne. A massive, bloody war loomed ahead.

The messengers returning to Pamplona, however, brought ironic and surprising news: except for France, all allies on both sides dishonored their previous agreements.

"And what advice do you have now, Master Michel?"

"There is no need to panic, Your Majesty. We are separated from French territory; the only serious risk is if Aragon or Castile were to attack us."

"Speaking of my son-in-law Juan of Aragon, what do you say to this news?"

King Charles showed Michel the polite but firm refusals from both England and Aragon to requests for military access.

"Our request of England was quite frankly a longshot. As for Aragon, I have heard that Juan is quite a shrewd bargainer. I believe that he is holding out for a better deal. Perhaps it's time for a personal conversation between the two of you -- with the birth of your grandson Charles earlier this year, you need to persuade Juan of your common interests."

May 1422

Guyenne

Michel's prediction was accurate. A gift from Charles to his son-in-law reversed the earlier decision, granting Navarre's army transit rights through Aragonese territory. Soon the French province of Guyenne was put under siege. Navarre's army was undisturbed for several months until the spring of 1422, when two attempts by the French to relieve the city were driven off easily.

Paris

"And now, my dear kinsman Philippe, all that is required is your signature."

The Dauphin Charles tried to remember his lessons and his manners, but it was hard not to gloat. Burgundy had been thrashed, their armies destroyed, and many strongholds captured. Duke Philip of Burgundy was compelled to cede Artois to Charles, and Franche Comte to Charles's ally Lorraine.

With Burgundy dispatched, Charles then ordered his commanders to march southward. It was time to teach these Navarrese upstarts a lesson.

August 1422

London

"The King is dead!"

The reign of Henry V, so full of promise, was tragically cut short as Henry fell from dysentery. The King of England was now his infant son Henry VI, while the babe's uncles acted as regents. France would be safe from English interference for some time.

Paris

Charles successfully persuaded Provence to rejoin his alliance; they were in good position to cross the Rhone and put pressure on the pesky Navarrese, who had just captured Guyenne before Charles could send many reinforcements there.

In October, the same cry which had caused consternation in London brought relief in Paris: King Charles VI at last gave up his tortured fight for sane life and departed for what one hoped was eternal peace. The Dauphin now became King Charles VII of France in name as well as fact.

Pamplona

Very soon it was Navarre's Charles who was becoming nervous. Unable as yet to send large forces by land, the French had opted for the sea route, attempting to invade Bearn from the Bay of Biscay. Navarre's small defending force was enough to push back the first invasion, but the French soon returned with a larger force and laid siege.

Not surprisingly, Navarre's demand that France cede Guyenne was rudely dismissed at this time.

More bad news reached Navarre as their victorious army from Guyenne was unable to defeat a French force in Languedoc. Late in the year a second attempt was successful; nevertheless the French continued to besiege Bearn and had begun a siege to retake Guyenne as well.

1423

The first half of the year brought few victories and many defeats for Navarre. France captured Bearn in April and recaptured Guyenne in June. However, in Languedoc Navarre's army held in spite of several French counterattacks.

The summer brought mixed results with many small battles in Guyenne and Cevennes, but the Navarrese were unable to lay siege to Guyenne again.

November brought a turn of fortunes. Languedoc fell to Navarre, after which the army moved north to Lyons, defeating two determined French counterattacks.

1424

The French army returned in the spring, attempting to recapture the rich province of Languedoc. But Brother Juan and the Templar cavalry were waiting for them from the safety of Roussilon. Not only did the French fail to win the field in Languedoc, but in May Lyons also fell to Navarre.

Nevertheless, Navarre's attempts to recover their home territory met with failure, as Provence kept an occupying army in Bearn which Navarre was repeatedly unable to defeat.

Summer and fall passed with neither side achieving decisive victory. The French moved their army to Languedoc in order to recover this province; Navarre lost every attempt to uproot them, maintain a siege in Guyenne, or remove the Provencals from Bearn.


December finally brought a turnaround. Juan and the Templars demolished the French army in Languedoc, keeping this province under control of Navarre. They followed this with a victory in Guyenne and began the arduous process of siegecraft there. Nevertheless, Navarre's diplomats were consistently unable to reduce their enemies at the bargaining table, as both Auvergne and Provence refused to make peace.

1425

The winter was hard and cold, and King Charles of Navarre sensed it would be his last. In January, from his sickbed -- really, his deathbed as they all knew -- he called for Michel one last time.

"Your Maj--"

"Friend, call me Charles, my Christian name."

"As you wish, Sire. Your father would be proud of you, I know it. I just wish he were alive to see our victory."

"But we don't have it yet. The French still refuse to part with territory."

"Charles, do not be dismayed. You know well that our armies have the upper hand. The French will concede soon."

"But I will not be here to see it, Michel."

"As the priests quote from the letter to Hebrews, Charles, even from here we can see our victory by faith, the assurance of things unseen. We will finish this war in triumph, I promise you that."

"You have always been as good as your word, Michel. I hope and pray one last time that that will still be true."

"As I live and breathe, I swear it to you, Charles."

"Then one last thing I charge you: watch over my young grandson."

"The men of the Brotherhood will keep him safe, I swear it."

"Be wary of my son-in-law. He has great ambition, and little to restrain him."

Michel nodded; he shared his king's concerns. Michel clasped Charles's hands one more time. The two men embraced with tears, and Michel left the chamber. It was time for Charles's closest family, his daughter and her husband, and the little Charles, the hope of Navarre's royal line.

Michel stopped to pick up the boy. "Young Master, your grandfather is a great man. Remember him always." Then Michel bowed with deference to Blanche and Juan, and left the palace.

Charles III of Navarre died that night. His daughter Blanche became Queen, and Juan of Aragon became King of Navarre although technically he was only a regent serving the young Charles.

Michel kept his promise to Charles. Even as the old king lay dying, Navarre's reinforcements were being trained by the Templar officers. This new army then marched to Bearn and, at last, drove off the enemy from Provence. Meanwhile, Navarre's army in Guyenne safely withstood another French counterattack and slowly wore down the walls.

April 1426

Lyons

The rest of 1425 passed by with no major battles. Navarre slowly besieged both Bearn and Provence, while France was unable to reclaim either Languedoc or Lyons. When Guyenne finally surrendered to Navarre for the second time, King Charles VII of France conceded defeat. His representatives met with those of Blanche and Juan in Lyons in order to negotiate. Charles very naturally instructed his ambassadors to use France's great wealth in order to buy out Navarre if at all possible. But it wasn't. Navarre insisted on Guyenne; and when the treaty was signed, so it was.

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As mentioned in my last post I can't yet put in my intended screenshot here. In time I expect to have it. It will show France after this war, with Guyenne in Navarrese hands and Burgundy weakened.
 

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The Templars are very determined. I think I would have tried to make peace when France conquered my own privince and my army is to weak to recapture it. But after all, I lack the faith ;) .
 

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Nice... very nice indeed.

Although, I'm growing abit concerned about dear Juan of Aragon. :(
 

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Well, the "Brotherhood" certaintly have a large degree of political control (or at least, influence) within Navarre; it waits to be seen if this new "regent" will take kindly to being ordered around by such an organisation.

Great stuff :D
 
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Thanks for the kind comments. Don't be impressed, though, with Navarre's victory in the war. Although not easy, it wasn't really hard, either. The military access through Aragon was the key. I could fight in France when I wanted, and retreat to Roussilon (in Aragon) if the heat got too much for me. Then I could wait and strike at Guyenne or Languedoc when I thought the way was clear. Sometimes it was, and sometimes it wasn't. ;)

I'll be away on vacation for the next 10 days, borrowing a page from Farquharson's playbook. To keep you occupied in the meantime, I challenge you to predict the next 20 years or so of events. I'll give you a very big hint: although I didn't know this at the time, the actions in my game follow very closely to actual historical events during this period, but naturally with different results. :D

I apologize again for the snafu with the screenshots. After my vacation I am confident I can get them up.
 

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Excellent work standing up to Big Bully France! And I think you've earned yourself a few days vacation - although there's not many people that would apply to when they've only reached 1426! ;) Have a nice time.
 

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A rather drawn-out war, but certainly worth it. I foresee a number of further wars with France in the near future, perhaps an alliance with England?
 

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The Templars fought a good war there. I enjoyed your descriptions and the way you managed to describe the whole war in only one (albeit quite lengthy) post: the pace is not letting up and I'm looking forward to seeing Navarre expand further into French lands.

As to predicting the next twenty or so years in the game... I don't really know anything about that period in history, so your well-intended hint about things being fairly close to history except for the outcome, is wasted on me. So, unburdened by any knowledge or insight, I'll hazard a guess: the next twenty years will see one or two Anglo-Frankish wars, at least two more Navarran wars (but perhaps one of them will not involve France) and in general copious bloodletting within the realms of Gaul.

Not much of a guess, I'll admit, but it's a starting point, for others to build on. :) Enjoy your tour through the South and your visit to Atlanta, see you again (virtually, on the Boards) in a couple of days.
 

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I finally got all the way caught up. A fantasic read overall and very entertaining. I'm quite pleased you've gotten to the gameplay at last and am quite looking forward to how things unfold. :)
 

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Once again we see that an army with a protected refuge is terribly hard to beat. The French commanders must have been very angry that they were not allowed to pursue the Viet Navarrese over the border into Roussambodia, protected by 'Uncle Juan' of the People's Democratic Despotic Monarchy of Aragon.

One can almost hear King Charles calling for a cavalry offensive: 'Rolling Thunder of Hoofbeats'. You don't want to know what kind or ordinance those cavalry horses were dropping!


That said, well done! It is always sweet to enrich oneself at the expense of ones enemies, and this victory counts double: +1 for Navarre AND -1 for her enemies. As you know, the French minors tend to be gobbled up so they might as well come to you.

Bravo! One for the good guys!
 

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My lord, Director, are you having flashbacks? :p (You could've been there. At the tail-end. If you enlisted at the age of 16...)

Inspired comparison to Vietnam, to be sure. But one question remains: if the Templars are as the NVA/Viet Cong, then who amongst the French will play the pivotal parts played by Chuck Norris and Sylvester Stallone? :rolleyes:
 

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Ahh...I have finally caught up once more and pleased to see us in the midst of campaigns against France in-game.

Your leadup of the last few years of history before 1419 was, as usual, concise and full of all the right information. The familial disputes were surely players in the long war these two countries fought.

And now you begin your game with a well fought war. You must have had some fairly sizable armies to lose the homeland and yet still fight valiantly. A masterful stroke to hide behind the wall of "Roussambodia" (to quote Director :rofl: ).

But that English territory of Gascogne must be very attractive. Would the Templars begin to play France against England and pick up the scraps?

Glad to be caught up and ready for the ride. Hope you enjoyed your trip down south and sorry once again we were not able to meet and great.