Naval battle UI

[Oddb@ll]

Hello!

Could someone tell me what exactly is going on in this pic? (Except the US Navy having a good time)

Are fleets kept separate if a second fleet joins an ongoing battle?

 

[wesleytj]

Not sure exactly what you're asking. The ships (and aircraft) on the left are attacking the ones on the right. You can mouse over a particular ship type and it will show you what (if anything) those ships are currently firing at. It will also show damage taken. The Japanese cruiser at the bottom has already been destroyed.

Also, the exact location of the Japanese subs is undetermined - that's why that weird little symbol is over them. They can't be attacked at the moment, because the Americans don't know where they are. That can change hour to hour as they are spotted by aircraft or other ships, usually when they are closer to the enemy.

I don't really understand the 2nd question either. What do you mean by "kept seperate"? They will show up on this screen too, only one commanding officer will show up on top (the one with the highest skill I think).

Hope that helps.

 

[Wraith11B]

I do believe that he's got two CTFs in this engagement, and why they're being displayed separately. I've never seen this on a display, really.

 

[Oddb@ll]

I do believe that he's got two CTFs in this engagement, and why they're being displayed separately. I've never seen this on a display, really.

Yes, precisely.

Not sure exactly what you're asking. The ships (and aircraft) on the left are attacking the ones on the right. You can mouse over a particular ship type and it will show you what (if anything) those ships are currently firing at. It will also show damage taken. The Japanese cruiser at the bottom has already been destroyed.

Also, the exact location of the Japanese subs is undetermined - that's why that weird little symbol is over them. They can't be attacked at the moment, because the Americans don't know where they are. That can change hour to hour as they are spotted by aircraft or other ships, usually when they are closer to the enemy.

I don't really understand the 2nd question either. What do you mean by "kept seperate"? They will show up on this screen too, only one commanding officer will show up on top (the one with the highest skill I think).

Hope that helps.

Thank you.

I do understand that my fleet (the US one) is attacking from the left, supported by aircraft. What I do not understand is the display of the US navy. It is in two separate stacks, meaning for example that there is one stack of 11 DD at the top and an additional stack with 22 DD at the bottom. Note also how the aircraft partaking in the battle is split in the same way with four stacks being displayed together with the "top fleet" and an additional three stacks with the "bottom fleet".

I am asking whether this is the UI working as designed, that is, it is normal for two fleets to stay separate in a battle? My impression from playing has been that fleets merge when they engage?

 

[pvt.conners]

Normally they do merge, from what I've seen, even among allied/neutral nations. Not sure what leads to this kind of behaviour. The Japanese fleet is also split into two groups, so maybe it's four different taskforces engaging eachother that lead to this?

 

[Wraith11B]

Perhaps somehow you've stumbled upon the unlocked new Dev version? I've nothing otherwise.

 

[Oddb@ll]

I guess it remains a mystery! Thanks for the input though.

 

[Alex_brunius]

In my experience this most of the time happens when you have allied ships from other nations in the same battle.

Do the fleets have different missions, specifically one having no mission at all but just "hold"?

That might explain why they are split up aswell.

 

[Oddb@ll]

Do the fleets have different missions, specifically one having no mission at all but just "hold"?.

My memory is a bit hazy, but that might be the case yes. It's likely a fleet on a mission who initiated the battle, and then I sent in an other fleet to support it. I'm still confused about the japanese navy though, perhaps he did the same thing (i.e. reinforced with an additional fleet to the ongoing battle).

 

[Alex_brunius]

I don't think it actually does any difference how they are displayed though since AFAIK each ship keeps individual positions and targets.

 

[Oddb@ll]

No that's probably true. I just found the display of ships to be kind of odd-looking! Sometimes this game can still confuse me

 

[windows10username]

Are fleets kept separate if a second fleet joins an ongoing battle?

Yes. Both sides have two fleets engaging in the same area. So the top fleets will engage eachother seperate from the bottom ones. In my experience they only merge when one fleet wins its individual matchup. This has been in the game for quite some time. This is how I lost my first capital ship of hoi4 .

 

[CharlesV]

It's just an (accurate) mechanic to show different fleets arriving from different places. Often they don't form these two groups because one fleet, sensing its own inferiority in comparison to the enemy, will wait for reinforcements, so the fleets all join before battle. I'm not sure whether or not it's purely cosmetic, but I assume the ships will advance at different speeds to show one being farther away.

I can't tell you if they merge completely, but they should act as one fleet during the battle.