Naval attrition

[Wyrm]

I thought that struck me as I begun to think about how the devs decided to handle supplies and such in the game is through attrition... how do the do this for the navy?

As it is now, resupplying seems to be handled with replacement of equipment. So instead of sending fuel and ammo, we send infantry equipment and new tanks or fighter planes to the front...

But how to do this with naval units? It's fair to assume that we won't have battleships and carriers suddenly needing replacement while on the move... but still, ships in the war consumed oil and other supplies. A LOT of it... So how will this be handled?

An important example for this is Italy that kept most of their navy in port for most of the war due to a lack of oil....

 

[Denkt]

The only thing ships need in HOI4 is a naval base large enough to support them, similar to airbases for aircrafts.

 

[Sun_Killer]

and the naval base needs enough generic supply from supply lines. Don´t know how it is handeled for navy exactly but have seen for airplanes if the base isn´t fully supplied they get an efficeny penalty on the mission. Can be seen in one of the Japan WWW

 

[Victor Cortez]

Ships have ORG, right? Maybe if they spend too much time in an attrition area they lose ORG? Which means they lose efficiency even though they didn't suffer any damage.

 

[Wyrm]

But what about upkeep? Will ships be "free" to have around and sail around with?

 

[Sun_Killer]

yep

 

[Daddl]

But what about upkeep? Will ships be "free" to have around and sail around with?

Yep, thats how it works.

You will find exhaustive discussion about that in the stickied Oil and Logistics Megathread.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...-mega-thread-post-all-discussion-here.891473/

 

[Sun_Killer]

Yep, thats how it works.

You will find exhaustive discussion about that in the stickied Oil and Logistics Megathread.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...-mega-thread-post-all-discussion-here.891473/

Isn´t this thread already so long that you could make a 500 page book out of it?

 

[Daddl]

Thats why I didn't bother reading further than page 5 or so.

Either fuel use has to be meaningful or you can scrap it completely. I didn't had the impression you ever ran out of fuel in HoI3, so it didn't really served a purpose after all, other than driving you mad because the supply system delivered the damn supply to your motorized units, but somehow not the fuel.

Thats why all this is reworked completely now, and I'm quite happy about that.

 

[Nicolas I]

...But how to do this with naval units? It's fair to assume that we won't have battleships and carriers suddenly needing replacement while on the move... but still, ships in the war consumed oil and other supplies. A LOT of it... So how will this be handled?...

How will this be handled? Unfortunately, badly...I said it all in the Oil and Logistics megathread.