Natives can still form colonial tags

[j4freeman]

Title. I could add screenshots but I'm sure everyone has run into the 3 province totemist Canada/USA/what have you recently. How has this still not been fixed after like 4 patches?

 

[grotaclas]

I could add screenshots but I'm sure everyone has run into the 3 province totemist Canada/USA/what have you recently.

A country needs 10 provinces to form USA or Canada, so they lost some provinces afterwards-

How has this still not been fixed after like 4 patches?

Probably because there are many more important issues. And maybe the developers don't even know about that. Your post is only the second time that I have seen this discussed(here, on reddit or on the steam forum). And I can't find any bug report about the topic. And this is not trivial to fix, because it happens due to a combination of factors:

• natives are prevented from forming colonial tags because of their tech group
• natives can reform to become a horde
• becoming a horde changes the tech group to nomadic, but doesn't allow the formation of colonial tags, because hordes are also prevent from doing it
• reforming into a horde lets the country keep their reform progress, so that they can immediately pass all reforms
• the AI sometimes chooses to reform out of a horde with the last reform and that changes their tech group to chinese
• natives can reach admin tech 10
• natives can get the required amount of provinces needed to form the colonial tags
• a non-horde with chinese tech group and admin tech 10 can form the colonial tags

None of these would be a problem in themselves and changing one of them would cause other issues.

 

[Republic of Mercury]

None of these would be a problem in themselves and changing one of them would cause other issues.

The most obvious fixed would be for nations to start with a "wasNative" flag (ala the flag for having ever been and end-game tag), make never having been a naitve a requirement to form one of the colonial-formables.