This have been an issue for several patches, but it seems worsening constantly-in my current Inca game, over 25 war with colonies ended with zero european intervention.
Native Americans are monstruously overpowered with the persistent ''ignore motherland colonial war''
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Poor AI play =/= most gimped nations in the world by a wide margin are overpowered.
I'd rather see new world have functional agency and the AI try to defend itself though, yes.
I'd rather see new world have functional agency and the AI try to defend itself though, yes.
Actually, most Native Americans nations have drop dead gorgeous ideas and are not gimped at all in the hands of a player, especially when colonial wars do not trigger a war with the motherland.
I reformed the Incas empire around 1550. It took me well until the mid 1620 to catch up in tech and ideas. In the meantime, the Incas triple in size by attacking colonies.
I reformed the Incas empire around 1550. It took me well until the mid 1620 to catch up in tech and ideas. In the meantime, the Incas triple in size by attacking colonies.
1550 reform timing takes luck. You can be stuck waiting until 1580 or later with no way to do anything about it.
Any other position in the world can trivially pick up more development sooner while lagging in tech for less of the game. When a position is significantly weaker than other positions under theoretical perfect play...sometimes by > 1000 development, it is gimped.
Any other position in the world can trivially pick up more development sooner while lagging in tech for less of the game. When a position is significantly weaker than other positions under theoretical perfect play...sometimes by > 1000 development, it is gimped.
I suppose it's personal, but I would trade ''boring early game'' to ''attack everything that move with impunity late game''
I mean, it's ridiculous : there was a large Austrian Québec take to an incredibly powerful Austrian game (they control France AND the British Isles AND the Empire) and Austria, rival and rivaled, did not lifted one little Hasburg finger.
BTW, I don't mean they don't help their colonies (they usually don't help them effectively) I mean the DOW, thanks to an issue, means that I'm at war with the colony and not the motherland.
I mean, it's ridiculous : there was a large Austrian Québec take to an incredibly powerful Austrian game (they control France AND the British Isles AND the Empire) and Austria, rival and rivaled, did not lifted one little Hasburg finger.
BTW, I don't mean they don't help their colonies (they usually don't help them effectively) I mean the DOW, thanks to an issue, means that I'm at war with the colony and not the motherland.
We are talking about the new world, not the Ottomans or HRE. If you imperialism 2/3 of France as a heathen, you're going to experience something a little different than "impunity" from nearby Europeans.
Overlord has multiple methods to interfere with such wars and the AI doesn't use them. It's the same rules that apply to wars between two colonial nations. This is not a case that the worst nations in the game are somehow "overpowered". It is a case that the AI should quit game throwing.
While they're at it, maybe they can make CNs that don't fight anybody at all stop finding their way into 1000's of ducats of debt. That'd be nice too, make them a little more competitive.
So long as we have this trash:
It's hard to buy that natives are the issue here. AI game throwing =/= issue with already weak nations. Fix the broken. There's plenty of broken, and the only broken WRT natives is that they remain the only positions on the board that utterly lack agency in their ability to progress and play the game.
That's the 3rd time Caribbean has been in such debt in one game BTW. It has never been overextended, has never fought a battle, and has only 0 LA provinces with right culture/religion. By itself, it has managed to put up ~1k in debt. It's hard for these nations to fight back when they're so busy shoveling money into the water.