Nations released in peace?

[Morricane]

I wasn't very successful in using the search for this...so: has the thing that nations that get released in a peace deal just *don't do anything at all* ever been addressed?

I doubt that's supposed to be a "feature", after all, so why is that anyway? AI bug?

 

[mgoetze]

It has been improved somewhat, but is still far from ideal.

 

[Nidhoegger]

What do you mean? I have seen nations, which are released (in 1.5.1) making alliances or claiming cores with neighbours.

 

[Morricane]

What do you mean? I have seen nations, which are released (in 1.5.1) making alliances or claiming cores with neighbours.

I haven't, yet :/
So I wondered if it has ever been worked on.

 

[Murmeldjuret]

They adressed it in a patch (making released states more likely to be offered alliances etc.). A problem is that the AI is loathe to over relations limit, and besides the one reserved for the player, they are often full, therefore not many want to protect the little state. Those released states often also rival nearby states (who also rival them) and since they get CB missions, (or simply reconquest missions) the small states get eaten unless the player protects them. I have seen released states do diplomacy, and even grow. But it is much more likely they will just get eaten soon.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

What kind of resources does a released nation have? It takes time and money to build units, and time to build relations. They often have neither until they're attacked, but they DO act like normal AIs if left to actually develop a bit.

 

[Viperswhip]

Ya, but whenever I release a nation I start with a guarantee on it. However, I don't normally see this when a nation gets released by the AI it just means juicy target for me.

 

[oblio-]

Another question related to this - is it normal that if I release a country as a Shiite, it becomes Sunni? Fought the Oirat Horde, conquered Tibet's provinces. Release Tibet - bam! Sunni instead of Shiite (I'm Qara Qoyunlu).

And yeah, brand new nations are kinda crappy - it takes them 20 years to get any sort of alliance and many times they don't even do it

 

[mgoetze]

Another question related to this - is it normal that if I release a country as a Shiite, it becomes Sunni?

Yes, if the capital of the released country is heathen, it will be your religion, but if it is heretic, it will stay heretic.

 

[SpySappinMyUser]

It was "fixed" in a patch a while ago but I still see it all the time in my games. As Murmeld said the AI always reserves one spot for the player, and the others for the other AI nations, and since they are normally full either improving relations with other nations, annexing, etc, it's unlikely that these small nations will get few to any dip relationships other than perhaps with the country that it was released from.