Hence why I compared it with Dutch (since the days of the Republic, there was a Protestant elite, Catholic emancipation lasted till the middle of the 20th century) and Belgian/Flemish ((used to be
) pretty tied to Catholicism).-
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Hence why I compared it with Dutch (since the days of the Republic, there was a Protestant elite, Catholic emancipation lasted till the middle of the 20th century) and Belgian/Flemish ((used to be
) pretty tied to Catholicism).
Macedonian nationalists were encouraged at various times by serbs, austrians, and russians, mostly to discourage various other nations from trying to integrate them.
That said it's not fair to call it a foreign movement- macedonians did come to consider themselves a nation internally. The father of macedonian nationality was Georgi Pulevski, who did amateur research and writing and elaborated on (IIRC) the influences of albanian, turkish, and greek culture on the "macedonian" people and language- he considered himself an ethnic bulgarian and a "serb patriot" but nevertheless argued for a unique "slavjano-makedonski*" identity. There were macedonian nationalists going to Russia in the 19th century to seek independence from the turks (as "slavjano-makedonski", not as bulgarians or serbs), although I wouldn't say macedonian identity was fully-formed until Serbia and then Bulgaria occupied it briefly. The Kingdom of SC and C had tried to enforce Serbo-croatian on Macedonia, and then during WW2 the bulgarians tried to enforce bulgarian- as it was, being forced into either camp spurred macedonians into the hands of the third way and they largely supported the communists and got their own republic in return.
*the macedonian nationalist movement in real life never really claimed to be the sole inheritors of ancient Macedonia (though I'm sure there are some modern, uneducated crazies who would), which makes the greeks look a bit crude when you see how angry they get about it. The macedonians merely claim that the ancient hellenic(-influenced) culture was one of several that the slavs who now live there were influenced by. The did not in any way deny that macedonians were slavs akin to bulgarians and serbs.
That said it's not fair to call it a foreign movement- macedonians did come to consider themselves a nation internally. The father of macedonian nationality was Georgi Pulevski, who did amateur research and writing and elaborated on (IIRC) the influences of albanian, turkish, and greek culture on the "macedonian" people and language- he considered himself an ethnic bulgarian and a "serb patriot" but nevertheless argued for a unique "slavjano-makedonski*" identity. There were macedonian nationalists going to Russia in the 19th century to seek independence from the turks (as "slavjano-makedonski", not as bulgarians or serbs), although I wouldn't say macedonian identity was fully-formed until Serbia and then Bulgaria occupied it briefly. The Kingdom of SC and C had tried to enforce Serbo-croatian on Macedonia, and then during WW2 the bulgarians tried to enforce bulgarian- as it was, being forced into either camp spurred macedonians into the hands of the third way and they largely supported the communists and got their own republic in return.
*the macedonian nationalist movement in real life never really claimed to be the sole inheritors of ancient Macedonia (though I'm sure there are some modern, uneducated crazies who would), which makes the greeks look a bit crude when you see how angry they get about it. The macedonians merely claim that the ancient hellenic(-influenced) culture was one of several that the slavs who now live there were influenced by. The did not in any way deny that macedonians were slavs akin to bulgarians and serbs.
Moldova not Moldovia. Moldovia was the name when it was a Soviet Socialist Republic; on independence the original name of Moldova was restored.
The only people I have ever heard bring up the religious element of Manchester United were City fans who identified their club as Protestant.
Moldova is the modern country (and also a river), Moldavia was the Principality and historical region, who derived its name from a town located on the river (something Moldovei).
In fact the name has never been changed at all. In the Moldavian language the country is called Moldova, but in English, or Russian for that matter, the name happens to be "Moldavia".
Unlikely. Moldovei means "Of Moldova" in Romanian.
Moldovia may have been the name in English of the republic but not in Romanian. Wallachia, similarly, was never called "Wallachia" (or anything similar) in Romanian.
Seriously.
Calling the country "Moldova" is a post-1990 innovation, understandable in a diplomatic context. The accepted name in the English language has been "Moldavia" for centuries, and this has nothing to do with evil Russians somehow "renaming" the country because they could.
Yes, older texts use "Moldavia" because that was the name of the republic as part of the USSR, modern texts rarely do so.
Precisely. Târgul Moldovei (now Baia) - Market of Moldova. Referring to the river on which the city was located. Târgul Moldovei being apparently the first capital of the Principality, was its namesake, though I couldn't tell you why sources say that's the case over the name just coming straight from the river. I'm no romanian scholar. My point is just that, in english (and french, and presumably other foreign languages that make the distinction) nomenclature, Moldavia is the Principality and Moldova the modern country. There's no politically-loaded "one is slavicized one is native" distinction. It's like Siam vs. Thailand, I suppose. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baia
That one's tricky, since there's ambiguity at which point a regional identity should be considered radically different. In comparison to say the Gagauz, the difference between a Macedonian and a Shop is hardly radical. In fact, there was little homogeneity within the region itself, ie Aegean dialects are closer to Rodope dialects than to Vardar dialects, lifestyle was also different due to climate. IMHO one should not overestimate the value of the regional identity, especially in comparison to political forces. BTW partisan activity in Macedonia was not exactly stellar.
That one's not really true. The old guard of Macedonian historians were and still are the main proponents of the ancient Macedon origin (on the basis of rather dubious ethnographic sources). If anything the scaling back of ridiculous claims is a modern phenomena not vice versa.
I merely repeat what I learned from a not-at-all-unbiased friend, so this is not surprising.
Hilarion for one. The first metropolitan was also of uncertain origin.