And England, even around Liverpool, never developed the sort of mass popular-Protestant/anti-Irish sentiment that scarred Scottish society for a hundred years.
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And England, even around Liverpool, never developed the sort of mass popular-Protestant/anti-Irish sentiment that scarred Scottish society for a hundred years.
You're risking a horde of angry Balkan nationalists by bringing up the question of national identity and that particular region.
You're risking a horde of angry Balkan nationalists by bringing up the question of national identity and that particular region.
I know but it's too juicy a plum to avoid squeezing
Given how utterly terrible the Danes were at it, I have my doubts. Not that the swedes were any better.
Transsylvanian was about to evolve into its own thing (and was also ironically a pocket of "true Hungarians") during the time of the Turkish occupation. In an interesting twist of fate, the loss of Hungary by the ottomans, and the subsequent shift back to the plain regions, that killed the development of a syncretized, separate culture.
Isint that a very recent thing though? I thought it was the Serbians that encouraged them to think of themselves as something other then Bulgarians.
Certain. What's more amazing is that Greece (a country with no heritage or history beyond some primitive temples and nonsensical 'philosophy') somehow exists today and is not part of the great Slavic nation of Macedonia.
I don't know at all, to be honest
Certain. What's more amazing is that Greece (a country with no heritage or history beyond some primitive temples and nonsensical 'philosophy') somehow exists today and is not part of the great Slavic nation of Macedonia.
There are the Moldavians of the Republic of Moldavia. A quick googling seems to show they were Romanians and wanted to rejoin Romania until some years ago but meanwhile changed their mind(?).
I always wondered, why did the Mecklenburgian, Brandenbugian, Silesian, Pommerian, ..., Slav populations were almost or really completely assimilated by the Germans during their Eastward expansion, to which one might add the Prussians and other Balts, yet the Czechs largely retained their character despite also being under German rule for centuries (plus being so close and almost completely surrounded by them)?
That's something that changed during the time: for example the election of Kliment Smoliatich (ethnically Russian) as a metropolitan in 1147 led to a schism in Russian church, since quite a lot of people were of opinion that only Greek can be the leader of a church. Needless to say that sentiment grew weaker with Byzantine decline, and was absolutely forgotten by the time of Council of Florence, after which Russian church began to see itself if not as the only "proper" Orthodox church, but at least as "more proper" then most.
No English club were particularly identified with England or Britain, they were just football clubs, Liverpool / Everton were just normal for England.
Everton were never really a Catholic club. Both clubs were originally controlled by Protestants but had mass support from Catholics. Though there is a theory that "toffees" was originally slang for Irish immigrants.
Moldovans in Moldova. A further google would reveal that the greater part of Moldova is still in Romania and that Moldova was one of the two founding republics that unified to make Romania. The first Romanian capital was in Moldova (the Romanian part).
Moldovan as a nationality was invented by the Russians (and they slavicised the name to Moldavia).
Yes but it does not matter, nowadays Moldavians consider themselves as a separate entity from Romanians(who have arguably lost any previous identification to either Valachia or Moldavia, and simply consider themselves Romanians), and they can be considered as one of the most recent nationalities in Europe.
Do we have any good data on how many consider themselves distinct from Romanians?
Gordy is right, Everton was never really defined as being the Catholic Liverpudlian club, in fact many people of Irish decent would swear on their lives that in fact Liverpool FC is the Catholic club despite this not even being remotely the case. The distinction is blurred and was never meaningful, similarly Manchester United was nominally the Catholic club since Stretford and Old Trafford were Irish immigrant areas in the late 19th century/early 20th century (in fact Stretford is still very catholic , not so much Irish) but the club was never defined by it in the way Rangers/Celtic are.
Most of it is a recent thing.
There were a number of non-Greek metropolitans before that.
You do realize there quite a few Catholics in Germany, however Protestantism played a smaller role in Austria (despite that at one point during the reformation there were quite a few). In a way the difference between German and Austrian, is similar to the difference between Dutch and Belgian, though perhaps Dutch and Flemish might be better in this case.
OTOH as a Catholic Dutchman, who's native dialect is a part of dialect group on both sides of the border (Brabantian), differences between the two (Dutch and Flemish) shouldn't be exaggerated either.
Also isn't the country Moldovia mostly located in Besarabia?
I do. In fact, IIRC, today there are nearly as many or more Catholics than Protestants. However, Germany was unified by a very Protestant Prussia and Austria was pretty tied to Catholicism.
Hm, I had always heard that they were fairly heavily linked to it in the 20s and 30s.